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Tolkien's Problem with Beowulf Translations [11:41]
YouTube ^ | September 23, 2025 | Graham Scheper

Posted on 10/06/2025 8:03:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: kiryandil

Thanks!


21 posted on 10/06/2025 9:32:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: AndyTheBear

Eric. Eric the Bee.

No, Eric the Half-Bee. He had an accident.


22 posted on 10/06/2025 9:33:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bfl


23 posted on 10/06/2025 9:33:10 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too. 😁 " - Robert Conquest )
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To: Deaf Smith

Definitely. I’ve been seeking the translation of The Odyssey that I read in a doctor office parking lot while waiting I guess for my sister (it was her text from a college course). I’m pretty sure the version had “He had lived in many cities of men and learnt their mind”. The closest I’ve found (and I just spent 20 or more minutes hunting) was the Lattimore, which is the one I thought she had. OTOH, it seems like the Iliad translation was by one scholar and the Odyssey translation she was using was by another, and the Lattimore Iliad (1951) is still considered the best by many.


24 posted on 10/06/2025 9:36:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have Seamus Heaney’s version Beowulf. Maybe I should look into Tom Shippy’s version.


25 posted on 10/06/2025 9:45:32 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: SunkenCiv

Beowulf has the best opening line, ever

“So”

😆


26 posted on 10/07/2025 1:58:03 AM PDT by Salamander (Please visit my profile page to help me go home again. https://www.givesendgo.com/GCRRD)
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To: SunkenCiv

“He is primarily concerned with the old English kenning in line 10A which usually gets translated to his sugarin [Huh? chagrin?] as whale road.”

So he went off and wrote Giles of Ham in protest....


27 posted on 10/07/2025 2:41:27 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I’m reading Seamus Heaney’s version too. I’m enjoying it.


28 posted on 10/07/2025 3:49:35 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: Salamander

“Hwaet”. “Listen up!”


29 posted on 10/07/2025 4:33:45 AM PDT by Romulus ( )
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To: SunkenCiv
"Fate sometimes saves a man from death when his courage is good."
30 posted on 10/07/2025 5:21:11 AM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m still suffering from PTSD (Posthumous Tolkien Stress Disorder) from trying to read another of J.R.R’s unfinished works published by Christopher, The Silmarillion.

I break out in hives at the sound of Ian McKellen’s voice, or the mention of Sean Astin’s name.


31 posted on 10/07/2025 10:39:55 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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