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Digital IDs a Step Toward Total Surveillance and Censorship
X ^ | 27 Sep, 2025 | Michael Shellenberger

Posted on 09/28/2025 6:53:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 09/28/2025 6:53:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Google helped China develop their surveillance state “Social Credit System” and look where that led.


2 posted on 09/28/2025 6:53:45 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Funny, they never mentioned voter ID.


3 posted on 09/28/2025 6:55:25 AM PDT by sgt_lau (Reject islam. They really do want to kill you.)
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To: MtnClimber

Just like China. The government wants the ability to force people to spend their money by charging negative interest rates, so you don’t develop any savings and remain independent of the government.

Negative interest rates are also a sign of an economy near its end.


4 posted on 09/28/2025 7:04:28 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Pornography feeds abortion. Abortion is Satan's ultimate effort to hurt God. )
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To: MtnClimber
George Orwell was right.

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I'm sure the UK police are hunting down whoever made this graphic.

5 posted on 09/28/2025 7:20:36 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: sgt_lau

“Funny, they never mentioned voter ID.”

Good point!


6 posted on 09/28/2025 7:25:00 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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The big push for Ai is to make it easier for the gov to spy on everyone and big tech to get some big fat welfare check. I don’t see any politician doing anything about it since they would rather waste our time on nonsense


7 posted on 09/28/2025 7:27:15 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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Digital anything has always been a stepping stone to a complete police state. Anything that can be remotely controlled, never really turned off and can pass vast amounts of data, quickly is a weapon for the state.

We were warned years ago and we never heeded that warning, the idea of newer and better gadgets and toys turned most heads away, a distraction and now I fear it's almost too late to stop the coming disaster.
8 posted on 09/28/2025 7:31:59 AM PDT by The Louiswu (USA FIRST...USA FOREVER)
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Meh, people used to say a social security number was the mark of the beast. It wasn’t. Neither is digital ID. Can it be abused? Sure! Social security card clearly states “not to be used for identification”. How many times are we asked for “the last four digits”? How many people have had their identity “stolen” when that number was associated with a name and fraud or theft occurred? I support a more secure form of ID with limitations. This from one who remembers having to show a driver’s license to write a check at the grocery store. None of this is the mark. You’ll know when it happens.


9 posted on 09/28/2025 8:02:31 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: escapefromboston

HOW MANY HOMELESS ARE THERE????????


10 posted on 09/28/2025 8:07:59 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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CANNOT COUNT HOW MANY STORIES I HAVE HEARD IN PAST 15 OR SO YEARS:

XXX HAS BROKEN DOWN IN THE FACTORY-—SEND A MECHANIC TO FIX-—
RESPONSE: “GEORGE USED TO DO ALL THOSE REPAIRS, BUT HE RETIRED & NO ONE WAS HIRED TO REPLACE HIM-—
OR THE PLANT MANAGER’S NEPHEW WAS THE REPLACEMENT AND HE ONLY KNOWS HOW TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES.....”

THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO ACTUALLY FIX THINGS ARE SLOWLY RETIRING——AND THERE ARE NO REPLACEMENTS.

THERE ARE TOO MANY THINGS THAT WILL NEVER BE REPLACED WITH ELECTRONICS OR AI.


11 posted on 09/28/2025 8:13:57 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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CANNOT COUNT HOW MANY STORIES I HAVE HEARD IN PAST 15 OR SO YEARS:

XXX HAS BROKEN DOWN IN THE FACTORY-—SEND A MECHANIC TO FIX-—
RESPONSE: “GEORGE USED TO DO ALL THOSE REPAIRS, BUT HE RETIRED & NO ONE WAS HIRED TO REPLACE HIM-—
OR THE PLANT MANAGER’S NEPHEW WAS THE REPLACEMENT AND HE ONLY KNOWS HOW TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES.....”

THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO ACTUALLY FIX THINGS ARE SLOWLY RETIRING——AND THERE ARE NO REPLACEMENTS.

THERE ARE TOO MANY THINGS THAT WILL NEVER BE REPLACED WITH ELECTRONICS OR AI.

THE GUYS AT GRAINGER MIGHT KNOW WHAT PARTS ARE NEEDED-—_BUT NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO “FIX THINGS”.


12 posted on 09/28/2025 8:15:07 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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The Secretary of the Treasury shall set up an ICE Bank System.

All persons and entities who engage in any type of physical real property activity must use the ICE Bank System to take payment:
1. after September 30, 2025, for such activity in Florida counties on the Gulf of Mexico having at least 50,000 people according to the US census,
2. after October 31, 2025, for such activity in the District of Columbia and Florida counties on the Atlantic Ocean,
3. after November 30, 2025, for such activity in Dallas County, Texas, Tarrant County, Texas and Harris County, Texas and adjacent counties,
4. after December 31, 2025, for such activity in Fulton County, Georgia and adjacent counties,
5. after January 31, 2026, for such activity in Bexar County, Texas, Travis County, Texas and adjacent counties,
6. after February 28, 2026, for such activity in Fairfax County, Virginia, Henrico County, Virginia and adjacent counties,
7. after March 31, 2026, for such activity in all political subdivisions in which the ICE Bank has set up an office at least two whole months previously.

Such physical real property activity shall be deemed to include building facility cleaning under contract and all building construction, building repair, building painting, landscaping, landscape maintenance, fencing and mowing.

Failure to do so shall be considered a felony and void the right to receive or retain payment or corresponding amounts and all such payments and amounts shall be subject to confiscation as the Secretary of Homeland Security may specify.

Violators shall be subject to a fine reflecting the lack of compliance and a term of imprisonment of 12 months for willful violation, or any lesser term the Secretary of Homeland Security may specify.

Property owners who conspire to subvert this law may be fined up to three times the apparent extent of the conspiracy.

Employees who do such work as a minor part of their workplace efforts such a waiter or retail store employee cleaning up or a cowboy mending a cattle fence shall be exempt and may be paid via other means for their work as such an employee.

The ICE shall have the power to void liens it reasonably deems contrary to the underlying intent of this law. Failure to cooperate in such lien voiding shall be a felony and punishable by a term of imprisonment of 12 months.


13 posted on 09/28/2025 9:37:26 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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When I go to vote here in Florida, my ID gets verified by electronic means.

Passport? Yes!

State ID card? Yes!


14 posted on 09/28/2025 9:39:06 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Bump up the months by three - time flies.


15 posted on 09/28/2025 9:54:24 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

The beast is coming.


16 posted on 09/28/2025 10:22:40 AM PDT by Revel
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Yes, you can see how badly the left wants Digital ID and surveillance.


17 posted on 09/28/2025 10:36:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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“it is ... Bill Gates and ... Larry Ellison, who are financing the digital ID push.”

Even more reason to oppose it.


18 posted on 09/28/2025 10:43:39 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O'Rourke)
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Bill Gates wants to track your VAX status and take away your ability to function if you are not up to date on every mandate.


19 posted on 09/28/2025 10:47:44 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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“each subject’s EHR contained vaccine administration data from HFHS and the state immunization registry, ensuring full capture of vaccinations. In Michigan, all providers are required to report vaccinations to the state registry within 72hours of administration. This study, to our knowledge, includes the largest cohort of children completely unexposed to vaccination with observation in some subjects up to 18 years.”

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26089210-henry-ford-vaccinated-unvaccinated-study/


20 posted on 09/28/2025 10:53:23 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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