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VP Vance warns of dire consequences for Russia as Trump loses patience with Moscow
Türkiye Today ^ | 9/24/2025 | Newsroom

Posted on 09/24/2025 1:31:56 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

The Trump administration signaled a dramatic shift in its approach to the Ukraine conflict Wednesday, with Vice President JD Vance warning that President Donald Trump is "growing incredibly impatient" with Moscow after diplomatic efforts to end the war have faltered.

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"He doesn't feel like they're putting enough on the table to end the war," Vance said during remarks in North Carolina, referring to Russian negotiating positions. "If the Russians refuse to negotiate in good faith, I think it's going to be very, very bad for their country."

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio reinforced the administration's hardening position during a tense encounter with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in New York on Wednesday. Rubio called for the "killing to stop" and demanded Moscow "take meaningful steps toward a durable resolution," according to diplomatic sources.

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To: Mariner
--- "And the US continues to buy minerals from them."

There is a certain amount of political theater in all this. Your observation above is not.

We and Europe continue the political dance to one tune and the business cha-cha to a different tune.

...there is significant dependence on Russia for certain stable radioisotopes used to produce medical radioisotopes for cancer treatment and the EU needs to increase efforts to develop EU production of such medical radioisotopes for the benefit of all Member States."

Source: COMMUNICATION FROM THE COMMISSION TO THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT, THE COUNCIL, THE EUROPEAN ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE OF THE REGIONS European Commisson, 12 May 2025.

"The Proposal will now be subject to the ordinary legislative procedure that requires approval from the European Parliament as well as a qualified majority of the EU Member States.."

Source: EU Proposes Regulation to Phase Out Russian Natural Gas Imports: Key Measures and Implications Mayer-Brown, 27 June 2025

The US and Europe are still doing billions of dollars’ worth of business with Russia despite years of war CNN, 14 August 2025.

"The Russian Federation retains dominant market positions in several strategic categories. It supplies: 83.85% of U.S. imports of phosphatic fertilizer mixes; 49.58% of urea-ammonium nitrate fertilizers; 45.34% of unwrought palladium; 44.67% of buckwheat,"

Source: U.S. Imports from Russia Surge in 2025, Led by Fertilizers and Metals GTAIC, 20 August 2025.

"When examining the top US imports from Russia, several key products stand out as significant contributors to the trade relationship between the two countries. As per Russia customs export data for 2024, among the biggest products that the US imports from Russia are fertilizers, metals and minerals such as iron, steel, and precious metals, as well as coal. These imports play a vital role in various industries across the United States and underscore the interdependence of the global economy. "

Source: US-Russia Bilateral Trade: What products does the US import from Russia? US Import Data, 13 March 2025.

And as to Turkey, that NATO member ---

"Tupras, Türkiye's largest oil refiner, has resumed purchases of Russian Urals crude oil, trading sources said, marking a shift from its earlier halt on imports following strengthened U.S. sanctions.

According to three trading sources speaking to Reuters and shipping data reviewed once again by Reuters, Tupras restarted imports in April after Urals crude prices dropped to their lowest levels since 2023—comfortably below the G7 nations' price cap of $60 per barrel.

Source: Türkiye's largest oil refiner Tupras resumes Russian crude imports as prices fall below G7 cap Türkiye Today, April 17, 2025

--- :...the US continues to buy minerals from them." And more than just minerals. Most of this info is obscured by the political theater noise, and I suspect President Trump has presented some of the noise-makers in Europe and the media with an interesting conundrum. At the UN, he said:

In the event that Russia is not ready to make a deal to end the war, the United States is fully prepared to impose a very strong round of tariffs, which I believe would stop the bloodshed very quickly. But for those tariffs to be effective, European nations—all of you gathered here right now—would have to join us in adopting the exact same measures. You're much closer to this conflict than we are. Europe has to step it up. They can't continue buying oil and gas from Russia while fighting Russia."

Fight -- or find a way to get past this and get back to doing business.....
21 posted on 09/24/2025 2:09:25 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: marcusmaximus

JD: You guys have heard of Rosie in Ireland? We’re going to send Joy Reid to Russia.


22 posted on 09/24/2025 2:09:26 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: Kazan
Komrade Kazan speaks again!

Always wrong - all the time.

Posted by Kazan 3/1/2023 Ukraine has been DESTROYED and there's nothing left "Absolutely clarity about the war in Ukraine from the colonel. I dare any neocon here to watch the whole video." - Kazan, 3/1/2023.

23 posted on 09/24/2025 2:10:42 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: marcusmaximus
"He doesn't feel like they're putting enough on the table..."

JD Pritzker: "Hey, don't even joke about something like that. Gives me panic attacks."

24 posted on 09/24/2025 2:11:14 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: Republican Wildcat

Bad link.


25 posted on 09/24/2025 2:12:05 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Republican Wildcat; Worldtraveler once upon a time
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26 posted on 09/24/2025 2:18:53 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Kazan
Komrade Kazan speaks again!

Always wrong - all the time.

Posted by Kazan 3/1/2023 Ukraine has been DESTROYED and there's nothing left
"Absolutely clarity about the war in Ukraine from the colonel. I dare any neocon here to watch the whole video." - Kazan, 3/1/2023.
"When the headline contains such obvious lies, there’s no way I’m wasting my time watching crap." - Danny TN 3/1/2023
"You're in denial of reality. The narrative you and your ilk is what is a lie" - Kazan 3/1/2023

27 posted on 09/24/2025 2:19:52 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Komrade Kazan hates “war pigs” - except Putin, apparently.


28 posted on 09/24/2025 2:21:41 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Thank you - fixed above.


29 posted on 09/24/2025 2:24:10 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: marcusmaximus
"...dire consequences..."

IMHO, that can mean only one thing - they're planning to pardon Ryan Routh,
and parachute him into Moscow with a rifle (or a BIC pen)...

/sarc

30 posted on 09/24/2025 2:26:03 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Who is John Galt?

At least he always looks happy in his work, so he’s got that going for him.


31 posted on 09/24/2025 2:29:53 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
At least he always looks happy in his work, so he’s got that going for him.

That often seems to be true of well trained, highly competent professionals...

;^)

32 posted on 09/24/2025 2:37:20 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Republican Wildcat
Most welcome. I am so-o-o not a consumer of long-form YouTube stuff. Perhaps I piss some folks off by looking into the channels and detail of who, what and where, but that's informative. So many “content creators” have turned “content creation” into their home-away-from-home at-home business.
33 posted on 09/24/2025 2:39:42 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: marcusmaximus
Russian state finances have deteriorated to the point that tax increases are now being imposed. The underlying economy is also suffering from consumer goods shortages and inflation, including in fuel, with winter approaching. In addition, heavy casualties and a lack of weapons and equipment limits Russian combat power against Ukraine and makes major offensive gains unlikely.

With Trump's Plan A of a negotiated settlement going nowhere, he may turn to Plan B, a Ukrainian victory due to a Russian military collapse. As fight aficionado Trump knows, sometimes the heavier fighter goes down from exhaustion, not because they have been out punched. The tone and nature of the threats to NATO from Russia suggest desperation and that Putin and his allies know that their options are increasingly limited and that the outlook makes Russian victory implausible.

34 posted on 09/24/2025 2:41:13 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
Dear FRiends, Our FReepathon is our next concern. We still need to raise approximately $16k before the end of the month to meet our goal! And I think we're gonna need a little prayer here. Thank you very much and God bless you.

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35 posted on 09/24/2025 3:10:29 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: marcusmaximus

Not a good idea to threaten people with more nuclear weapons than you have.


36 posted on 09/24/2025 3:11:31 PM PDT by McGruff
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Rubio... demanded Moscow "take meaningful steps toward a durable resolution"...

Guess they're still finding trinitite 80 years later - must be pretty durable!
/sarc

37 posted on 09/24/2025 3:16:56 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: marcusmaximus

“putting enough on the table to end the war”

Until W Europe/NATO stops financing Putin by buying Russian gas and oil, nothing else on the table matters.

The US, Saudis, etal should be selling to W Europe/NATO.


38 posted on 09/24/2025 3:20:45 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: marcusmaximus

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39 posted on 09/24/2025 3:22:02 PM PDT by Allegra (Thank you for your attention to this matter. )
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To: Trump20162020

“ Oh boy, game-changing aid package #314 incoming.”

Yes, but the EU is paying for it.


40 posted on 09/24/2025 3:23:50 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Gary Gilmore the POS who murdered Charlie Kirk!)
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