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To: ansel12
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Trump: "In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!", ansel12 wrote:

“on their own” means we are spending billions to build new factories and refurbish old weapon factories to keep Ukraine supplied in weapons, the president also is training the Ukrainian armed forces and is spending billions to maintain and move troops around to various NATO border nations like the Baltics and Finland and spending billions to preposition weapons and stocks as a defense against Russia while the president expends political capitol as he continues to try and force Europe away from Russian energy and to have harsher sanctions, and to participate more and continue building up their militaries and military budgets.

Outside of demanding help with funding from the rest of NATO, the President’s support for Ukraine is pretty much the same.

At the link, the President said  Sept 20, that the US is not funding the war, but is instead making money selling arms to NATO. He stresses he doesn't want to make money off the war, he wants the war to stop. By stressing the US is making money on the war he is making it clear the US IS NOT FUNDING THE WAR. 

President Trump: "NATO, as you know...its very important....they are funding the entire thing. They're paying for the missiles, the tanks. They're paying for anything sent over there; it goes to NATO, and then NATO does what they want with it. And in this case I guess they give it to Ukraine."

So if there's training of Ukrainian armed forces and movement of troops, it's paid for by NATO. 

President Trump said the US has given Ukraine $350 Billion dollars. Zelensky demands $40 billion in budgetary support. 

The ELites and Zelensky didn't get filthy rich spending President Trump's 'political capital'. Money from the US is the only way this farce lasted as long as it has.

There will be no more US military support for Ukraine, so Russia will keep the regions it has. If the proxy war continues to attack Russia, Ukraine will lose more land.

Ukraine is going from carte blanche Biden to reliance on NATO, which is essentially broke. NATO/Zelensky were planning to fight as long as the US paid for it all. There will be a big, noticeable difference in the Ukraine war. NOTHING in Ukraine is 'pretty much the same."


28 posted on 09/23/2025 1:48:18 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

My post was accurate, your isn’t except for the part that agreed with mine, you just don’t see how much we support Ukraine apart from the weapon sales, and no one is paying us for the training we give the Ukrainian armed forces, or for all of our connected military exercises and troop movements in the region, and for our basic military posturing and buildup that is focused on Russia.


32 posted on 09/23/2025 1:54:12 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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