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To: tlozo
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Trump: "In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!", tlozo wrote:
Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a War that should have taken a Real Military Power less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is very much making them look like “a paper tiger.”

President Donald J. Trump

It sounds like you think he meant that to be taken as factual. He's nailing down a key point of Ukraine/NATO propaganda - that Russia is weak. That statement of his will make it hard for them to claim Russia is going to take over the world, dreams of world conquest etc. when they beg for or demand the US get involved fighting RUssia.

NATO/Ukrainian false rhetoric about Russia's aspirations to take over 'if he's not stopped now' will have a collision with claims their own claims that he's too weak to hold out long.

Russia wanted to finish the fighting on his terms and Trump's exit will allow him to do that. Propaganda won't help the Ukraine as much as it used to - the money allowing Zelensky to posture as ready to fight as long as it takes has just left. 

NATO members can't make their 5% GDP contribution to NATO defense spending, and are struggling to get to 3%. NATO heads of state are starting to admit their countries don't have money and their military strength is atrophied. But if they don't fund NATO and rebuild their armies, the US has no benefit in the NATO 'alliance' as they are too enfeebled to come to their own aid, let alone come to the aid of the US.

Zelensky's just about on his own at this point.


13 posted on 09/23/2025 1:27:04 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

Yup. Brilliant verbal jiu-jitsu by PDJT.


16 posted on 09/23/2025 1:30:15 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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To: ransomnote
It sounds like you think he meant that to be taken as factual.

Trump ALWAYS says what he thinks.

23 posted on 09/23/2025 1:41:44 PM PDT by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump)
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To: ransomnote
The Europeans are paying for the weaponry being supplied to Ukraine and the Ukrainians themselves have developed their own weaponry for long range strikes into Russia, partly by reverse engineering the Western weaponry they already received.

Meanwhile, the Ukrainians are have pushed the Russians almost completely out of Sumy and the northern pincer attempting to surround Pokrovsk has been significantly reduced. And the rains have started, so the rasputitsa will set in soon.

Putin's summer offensive has gained almost of nothing at a cost of tens of thousands of casualties.

By next February, the war will have lasted longer than the "Great Patriotic War."

34 posted on 09/23/2025 2:12:24 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: ransomnote

Still trusting in the plan, I see.


67 posted on 09/23/2025 4:20:11 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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