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| September 16, 2025
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Posted on 09/17/2025 8:27:51 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger
2016, that’s about when BMW went totally downhill.
The BMW 3 Series was last included on Car and Driver’s 10Best list in 2023. It had previously made the list for 22 consecutive years, from 1992 through 2014, but the streak was broken in 2015.
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:32:32 AM PDT
by
1Old Pro
To: 1Old Pro
NEVER, EVER BUY A USED BMW!!!!!!.....
I learned my lesson the hard way..................
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:33:29 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
To: Red Badger
Bemeers are design to last 30,000 miles...then just fall apart.
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:34:15 AM PDT
by
CodeToad
To: Red Badger
Check
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:34:38 AM PDT
by
Vaduz
To: CodeToad
First they start bleeding...................
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:37:52 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
To: CodeToad
design to last 30,000 miles...then just fall apart.Maybe 60,000, but that's a problem. Quality has noticeably gone downhill over the past 10 years.
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:38:29 AM PDT
by
1Old Pro
To: 1Old Pro
Last year I bought a 2013 BMW M3 Convertible, the last year of the V8, 44k miles.
I’m treating it well, hopefully it returns the favor!
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:39:27 AM PDT
by
fuzzylogic
(welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
To: 1Old Pro
“2016, that’s about when BMW went totally downhill”
Wife had a 5 series when we met in 2001.
So glad when we got rid of it in 2003! On first name basis with their service techs.
Toyota/Lexus since. Only normal service in 22 years.
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:40:02 AM PDT
by
TexasGator
(The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
To: Red Badger
Knock on wood, but so far my (used) 2017 MINI is holding up nicely. I’ve had it for more than a year now, and I absolutely love it.
I don’t drive it very often, though. It’s my “Ice Cream Car” — a good friend uses that phrase for a fun, weekend car.
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:40:52 AM PDT
by
AnglePark
(My opinion is the most worthless thing I own.)
To: Red Badger
“NEVER, EVER BUY A USED BMW!!!!!!....”
NEVER, EVER BUY A New BMW!!!!!!....
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:41:02 AM PDT
by
TexasGator
(The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
To: CodeToad
No, they are designed to create a long term money stream for their PARTS & SERVICE departments.
Which they get a large portion of the repairs.
I think they decided to follow the example of Mercedes. Another luxury auto brand that is very expensive to repair and maintain.
Which is why I just bought a 2011 Lexus IS350C. It is a naturally aspirated V6 that was MADE IN JAPAN. I am the second owner. It came from Florida. Where it was maintained exclusively by the Lexus dealership that sold it.
To: fuzzylogic
Last year I bought a 2013 BMW M3 Convertible, the last year of the V8, 44k miles.Hopefully the M3 has better calipers, the standard E90 has crappy ones that go at about 8-10 years or 80,000 miles. Hopefully the rack doesn't go, that's a 4k plus job. Bilsteins may leak at 100k......not to mention other electronics.
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:43:57 AM PDT
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1Old Pro
To: TexasGator
Toyota/Lexus since. Only normal service in 22 years. Yes, they've built a pretty solid reputation, so far
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:45:36 AM PDT
by
1Old Pro
To: Red Badger
NEVER, EVER BUY A USED BMW!!!!!!.....Bought a 2010 128i in 2022 for, what I thought was a smoking deal of $5,000.
Into it for about the same amount since then for maintenance/repair. Currently not running; waiting for me to replace a rear ABS sensor.
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:45:56 AM PDT
by
Rinnwald
To: CodeToad
Well, that’s only about $33/mile. Not bad, if you’re into wasting money.
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:49:07 AM PDT
by
stevio
(Fight until you die!)
To: Rinnwald
Mine is a 2004 Z4 black convertible.
Sitting still for 3 years.
I call it my BLACK HOLE..........................
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:50:02 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
To: AnglePark
My 2015 Mini is still running well, but most mechanics will not even touch it. They just shake their heads and waive me off. Even Jiffy Lube has only one store in my area which will service it.
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:54:01 AM PDT
by
PUGACHEV
To: Red Badger
"water-injection system...49-horsepower gain over the standard M4...sprays water into the intake manifold to cool the pressurized air-fuel mixture for more efficient combustion"
Water injection into a gasoline internal combustion engine always amazes me. It's counter-intuitive because you'd think that would rob engine power and reduce engine efficiency. But water injection in a gasoline internal combustion engine doesn't necessarily reduce overall engine efficiency. Here's why:
- Knock Suppression and Optimized Parameters: Water injection cools the charge and combustion chamber, reducing knock tendency. This allows for advanced ignition timing, higher compression ratios, or increased boost pressure in turbocharged engines. These adjustments often improve efficiency by enabling more complete combustion and better utilization of the fuel's energy, offsetting the effect of lower peak temperatures.
- Charge Density and Work Output: By cooling the intake air, water injection increases air density, allowing more fuel to be burned per cycle. This increases the work output (power) for a given engine displacement, which can improve brake thermal efficiency if the engine operates closer to its optimal air-fuel ratio.
- Heat Loss Reduction: Lower combustion temperatures reduce heat losses to the engine walls, which can partially compensate for the theoretical efficiency loss from a lower T2. Less heat loss means more energy is available for useful work.
- Trade-Offs: Excessive water injection could lower temperatures too much, leading to incomplete combustion or increased HC/CO emissions, which might reduce efficiency. But in well-calibrated systems, the amount of water is optimized to balance cooling with combustion stability.
To: CodeToad
Bemeers are design to last 30,000 miles...then just fall apart. The basic warranty is for 4 years or 50K miles or what ever comes first.
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posted on
09/17/2025 8:55:25 AM PDT
by
EVO X
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