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To: McCarthysGhost
Did he launch that war? Did the idiots in Charleston who fired the first shots launch the war?

Do you believe the United States is a great nation today? Or do your believe it would have been a better place if it were broken apart 165 years ago, half slave and half free?

Ask yourself those questions and then pontificate on what the man did.

9 posted on 09/14/2025 2:16:41 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

Were we a divided country in 1941 there’s a decent chance we’d be watching Germans goose stepping down Broadway every Hitler’s birthday.

We needed the WHOLE country to win that war.

Lincoln did what he had to do after the South fired the 1st shots.


21 posted on 09/14/2025 3:21:38 PM PDT by Old West Conservative
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To: Ditto
Did he launch that war? Did the idiots in Charleston who fired the first shots launch the war?

Lincoln drew his pistol and aimed it at them while telling them he was going to fire.

Normal men shoot when they see the gun drawn, as Lincoln drew the gun on them.

The gun was a war fleet headed to Charleston to subdue the confederates there.

Or do your believe it would have been a better place if it were broken apart 165 years ago, half slave and half free?

I think England would have been a far more powerful empire if we had remained under their control, but do you know what? It's not up to them to keep us under their thumb. We had a right to leave, and so did the Southern states, and what effect it may have on the future of the Nation being left is immaterial to their right to leave.

26 posted on 09/14/2025 3:47:09 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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