Posted on 09/02/2025 5:18:54 AM PDT by MtnClimber
The overall argument is does Congress have the authority to abrogate their plenary power to the executive branch at all.
Congress could also end all this by simply passing a joint resolution with a veto proof majority saying as sinply as all previous laws pertaining to tariffs are null and void with all such powers returned fully to Congress for a period ending Jan 21,2029 or forever its up to them.
It’s looking more like the appeals court gets off on being shot doun by supreme court they keep doing it.
“It’s not that I dispute that statement at all — it’s that lower courts and judges routinely defy SCOTUS whenever they feel like it. What is to be done in those instances?”
Congress has the power to remove judges who defy SCOTUS that is their job after all. It’s a political question not a statutory legal one. If Congress chooses to do nothing that is also their power. The people can vote them out next round if they want different outcomes.
POTUS is facing a hostile Congress they will remove him again its a political not a legal question as all impeachments are purely up to politics the USSC has zero say nor does any other court. It’s two houses , two votes that’s all that matters the rest is political theater.
Congress does not presently have to agree with the President. But to stop the emergency they need to pass a joint resolution. We can wait as long as Congress wants to take even if it takes forever. Congress not acting means the President can continue to act.
Our financial elite with the help of our big consultancies declared economic world war on us when they offshored our economy to the enormous profit of themselves and the enormous loss of the American productive classes.
Tariffs are noting but a tax on someone and that someone is almost always the consumer.
Dear wrong. Go read Ricardo on the theory of economic rents. We are taxing the enormous economic rents from offshoring our economy. We are taxing the excess profits thereon. They have no ability to raise domestic prices here in the US.
I love the sulphureous smell of free traitors in the morning because your so-called free trade ignores all of the necessary components for free market economics. The problem with you version of free trade is that it is all rigged.
muh pernt
[[Congress not acting means the President can continue to act.]]
That’s the way I understood the lawyer to mean.
“ I predict it will be 9-0 that Congress and only Congress can dictate tariffs unless they specifically and with much limits allow the executive temporarily to impose them until such time as a full vote in both houses can be taken.”
And I predict the Supreme Court will follow the principles it annunciated in Field v. Clark and J.W. Hampton. The Tarrifs will be upheld.
Ricky Ricardo? I didn’t know he was an economist as well as a band leader.
What would those necessary components of free market economics be that are being ignored?
Not worth the argument for me. Time will prove someone right. Nobody’s crystal ball is all that clear but the past I have experienced when steel tariffs were raised had nothing to do with economic rents, prices just went up across the board and it was the end user that paid the price.
SHut up you Marxist.
Remember the backstabbing performance of the GOP Congress in 2017...
The feckless GOP has one function (in their own minds):
Protect their long-term access to the financial security of being a congressperson, even if in the minority, over any responsibility to the GOP voters who sent them to DC...
Grow up and behave.
So are you CCP kiss ass also?
LOL!
You can’t argue the point without insults.
Behave.
Get to work.
Answer the question.
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