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No apparent mention by the media writer of the citizens who returned fire on Whitman’s position within a few minutes after he started, and kept him from killing even more people, until the cops could show up and rush his position.


6 posted on 08/23/2025 11:38:02 AM PDT by curious7
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To: curious7

Read the article before claiming what it says and doesn’t say.


12 posted on 08/23/2025 11:57:39 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: curious7

Sorry, It was another article I was reading, not the one the OP links to.


13 posted on 08/23/2025 11:58:53 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: curious7
No apparent mention by the media writer of the citizens who returned fire on Whitman’s position within a few minutes after he started, and kept him from killing even more people, until the cops could show up and rush his position.

...and that many of those citizens were students, that the under-equipped police helped civilians retrieve their rifles, and that one civilian was part of the team that stormed the observation deck and stopped the shooter.

"When Whitman began shooting, the Austin Police Department was ill-equipped for the situation. They mostly possessed only their service revolvers and shotguns, weapons that were useless when it came to long distances. If they did possess a rifle, it was because it was a personal weapon. The officers weren’t alone, though. Once bystanders realized what was going on, many ran to retrieve their own firearms and fired back at the tower. In a few instances, police officers drove people in their squad cars to purchase ammunition or to pick up rifles. Some people asked police what to do if they had a shot at the sniper. The police said that they should shoot to kill."

http://behindthetower.org/armed-civilians-and-the-ut-tower-tragedy

"...students and residents to fetch their own high-powered rifles and shoot back, helping an unprepared and outgunned police force. Some worked alone, taking position on roofs or behind bushes. Others partnered with Austin police officers, whose handguns and shotguns could not reach Whitman nearly 300 feet above. Officers even raced to gun stores to get ammo for the civilians, who were told to shoot to kill. "These guys were pretty good shots," said Bill Helmer, then a graduate student who witnessed the mayhem. "There was a lot of lead flying up there at him."

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2016/07/31/the-loaded-legacy-of-the-university-of-texas-tower-shooting/


And then there's the story of Alan Crum, a civilian who armed up, was deputized on the way up inside the tower, and was one of the small cadre who stormed the observation deck and ended the shooter's rampage:

https://apps.texastribune.org/guns-on-campus/allen-crum-helped-stop-ut-tower-shooter-charles-whitman-republish/



17 posted on 08/23/2025 12:24:00 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: curious7

IIRC the citizenry further aided the cops in providing suppressive fire so the cops could get to the base of the tower.


22 posted on 08/23/2025 12:55:56 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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This is true. When all those Texans realize they were under fire they grabbed their own rifles out of their pickup trucks and shot back causing Whitman to take cover and try to shoot through drainage holes in the observation deck.

In 1975 there was a made for TV movie about this shooting. And as usual they blamed the guns. As the end titles ran there was a voice over telling how Whitman was found to have a tumor on his brain and it may or may not have caused his rampage. HOWEVER there was an even LOUDER voice over drowning out the first voice over telling people to be sure and watch another TV show coming on. It is like the TV station did not want you to hear about Whitman’s tumor.

As for the movie TARGETS, I thought it was interesting that Boris Karloff played an actor named ORLOCK (from Nosferatu).


35 posted on 08/23/2025 2:47:15 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( )
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