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Russia to Join NATO?
Armstrong Economics ^ | 21 Aug 25 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 08/21/2025 7:19:38 AM PDT by delta7

Congressman Matt Gaetz proposed a radical peacetime solution – allow Russia to join NATO. “Before you suggest I’m crazy for thinking about NATO and Russia as partners, the idea has been floated by foreign policy thinkers on the right and left for some time,” Gaetz added.

“In 1997, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee held a hearing on NATO expansion. President Clinton’s secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, reflected on groundbreaking cooperation between NATO and Russia.” The concept never came to fruition as NATO decided that encircling Russia was of paramount concern, and partnering with its greatest enemy was of no interest to the neocons who WANT war. “Michael McFaul was President Obama’s ambassador to Russia. In 2006, he wrote an article entitled, ‘Why a Democratic Russia Should Join NATO,’” Gaetz went on. “Again, this reinforces that NATO membership is an earned reward, not an entitlement, but why not give Russia a chance to earn it?”

McFaul’s piece on Russian NATO membership was published in July 2006. But you must read between the lines, as the ambassador was suggesting more than mere integration. “In Russia, they are represented by the corrupt bureaucracy and advocates of authoritarianism who believe that greater contact with the West restricts their power and diminishes their wealth. In the West, and especially in the United States, they are represented by policymakers and analysts who believe that Russians do not value democracy, Russian leaders are imperialists, and Russia therefore can never be considered part of the West,” McFaul wrote.

He continued to say that the West was not threatening to Russia, nor are “Russians genetically disposed towards autocracy nor historically destined to remain imperial.” Yet, under the leadership of Vladimir Putin, the West refuses to consider Russia a true democracy because it upholds nationalist views. Russia refuses to bend the knee to the globalist world order and, therefore, is considered an “unqualified member of the West.”

A regime change would alter the West’s perspective, as the West has long sought control over Russia. McFaul suggested that European leaders should outline a framework for Russia to join the European Union to become fully integrated into the West “even if it takes chunks of centuries.” Again, Russian NATO membership is contingent on Russia becoming a Western globalist world order member.

Obama’s Russian ambassador then went on to state that Russia must establish closer relations with other globalist organizations such as the United Nations, the OSCE, and the Council of Europe. Furthermore, Russia was to support the United States in its war in the Middle East and establish a “regional security organization, not unlike the CSCE that the United States and the Soviet Union anchored when first formed in 1974.”

Russia would never agree to join NATO. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was founded in the aftermath of the last World War to counter Russian influence, despite Russia being an ally during wartime. NATO incorporated Eastern bloc countries of the former Soviet Union to weaken Russia’s global influence in a move that humiliated the Russian people. Even after the Cold War, NATO continued to encircle Russia and expand eastward to assert dominance.

Former Russian President Boris Yeltsin was cautious about NATO expansion but agreed to join the Partnership for Peace in 1994 to maintain diplomatic relations with the West. Yeltsin then signed on to the 1997 NATO-Russia Founding Act that stated Russia and NATO would not consider each other adversaries.

NATO promised not to place nuclear weapons in new member states. Both sides agreed to increased transparency and cooperation. Every promise imploded in 2014 after the annexation of Crimea, the installation of a faux Ukrainian government, and the lie that was the Minsk agreement.

“Take care of Russia,” were Yeltsin’s final words to Putin before relinquishing power. Not only is Putin protecting Russia against foreign influence, but he is keeping the true hardliner oligarchs who wish to recreate the glory days of the USSR at bay.

However, both the hardliners and NATO have been impatiently waiting for a misstep from Putin since he took office. Russia does not want to become a vassal state of the West. NATO was formed to combat Russia and now acts as a retirement home for neocons who want to see Russia destroyed before they take their final breaths.


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Interesting fantasy, but why have NATO at all?
1 posted on 08/21/2025 7:19:38 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

In Before the Tx Gator, Fetch!……I am having to much fun with this one….send your complaints to Gaetz.


2 posted on 08/21/2025 7:21:20 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

IBTG

IBTS

IBSPCF


3 posted on 08/21/2025 7:21:32 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: delta7

Russia join NATO against who?


4 posted on 08/21/2025 7:22:15 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: delta7

IBTSP


5 posted on 08/21/2025 7:22:26 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: delta7

“Matt Gaetz has the solution for the Ukraine War: Make Russia part of NATO”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/matt-gaetz-solution-ukraine-war-134643983.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall


6 posted on 08/21/2025 7:23:49 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

I like to wear a t-shirt that sys “my doc says it’s OK for me to interact with people again”-


7 posted on 08/21/2025 7:25:30 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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To: SmokingJoe

Martians, obviously.


8 posted on 08/21/2025 7:25:43 AM PDT by OKSooner (Who says shooting woolly mammoths with a 1911 is a bad thing? )
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To: kiryandil

Indian boys toss girls?

Indian boys toss sheep?

Indian boys seek pretty Chinese females?


9 posted on 08/21/2025 7:28:20 AM PDT by Old West Conservative
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To: delta7

too late. Should have been done in the 90’s.


10 posted on 08/21/2025 7:28:53 AM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: delta7

The idea is fantasy and understands nothing from European and Russian history.


11 posted on 08/21/2025 7:29:10 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: SmokingJoe

Russia join NATO against who?
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In another less crazy world, it would be hysterical if Russia was allowed to join NATO, and the corrupt nation of Ukraine wasn’t.


12 posted on 08/21/2025 7:31:31 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Wuli

And the lion shall lay down with the lamb. Not in this world, unfortunately.


13 posted on 08/21/2025 7:33:37 AM PDT by maro (MAGA!)
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Russia join NATO against who?

China. Mad Mo's Murdering Marauders.

14 posted on 08/21/2025 7:36:24 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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To: delta7

If everybody joined NATO there would be no enemies. Peace at last.


15 posted on 08/21/2025 7:44:06 AM PDT by Pocketdoor
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To: delta7
Please call me Marty.

I run the ArmstrongEconomics scam site.

The worth of my advice can be measured by my three bankruptcies and losing over $700,000,000 of my clients' funds in bad trades.

That failed ponzi scheme got me eleven years in the federal pen.

signed, Martin Armstrong

16 posted on 08/21/2025 7:47:16 AM PDT by TexasGator (/1The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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In 1999, Japanese fraud investigators accused Armstrong of collecting money from Japanese investors, improperly commingling these funds with funds from other investors, and using the fresh money to cover losses he had incurred while trading.[13] United States prosecutors called it a three-billion-dollar Ponzi scheme.[14] Allegedly assisting Armstrong in his scheme was the Republic New York Corporation, which produced false account statements to reassure Armstrong’s investors. In 2001, the bank agreed to pay US$606 million as restitution for its part in the scandal.[14]

Armstrong was indicted in 1999 and ordered by Judge Richard Owen to turn over fifteen million dollars in gold bars and antiquities bought with the fund’s money; the list included bronze helmets and a bust of Julius Caesar.[15][16] Armstrong produced some of the items but claimed the others were not in his possession; this led to several contempt of court charges brought by the SEC and the CFTC, for which he served seven years in jail until he reached a plea bargain with federal prosecutors.[17][18][19] Under the terms of the agreement, Armstrong admitted to deceiving corporate investors and improperly commingling client funds—actions that according to prosecutors resulted in commodities losses of more than seven hundred million dollars—and was sentenced to five years in prison.[20][15]

He was released from federal custody on 2 September 2011 after serving a total of eleven years behind bars.[21][22]

The case against Armstrong was finally closed in 2017, with the distribution of about $80 million to claim holders by the receiver, according to court filings.[23] Armstrong appealed the refusal of the receiver to transport his remaining possessions from storage lockers in New York and Pennsylvania to him in Florida, but the appeal failed in 2019. Concerning his felony conviction, Armstrong is “unrepentant”, according to Bloomberg.[1]

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17 posted on 08/21/2025 7:48:53 AM PDT by TexasGator (The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: Pocketdoor

If everybody joined NATO there would be no enemies
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Not so fast, remember Turkey is a member of NATO. Turkey is a Muslim nation, and has been up to no good….best to disband NATO altogether, for many valid reasons.


18 posted on 08/21/2025 7:49:40 AM PDT by delta7
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To: kiryandil

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In 2014, a day laborer sold a box of 58 rare coins to a Philadelphia thrift shop for $6,000, which he said he had found while clearing out the basement of a house in New Jersey. Three years later, in 2017, when the thrift shop announced they were to auction the coins—actually valued at $2.5 million, Armstrong came forward to declare himself the rightful owner. He claimed that he had hidden the coins in his mother’s old house to take them “off the books” in anticipation of the public offering of his firm. The thrift shop sued Armstrong, asking the court to declare the thrift shop as rightful owners while Armstrong counter-sued, also seeking ownership. In 2019, the US government learned about the coins and claimed them as part of the treasure hoard Armstrong had refused to hand over in 1999, and for which he had served seven years in jail for contempt. In addition to rare coins, the treasure hoard, valued at $12.9 million, included 102 gold bars, 699 gold coins, and an ancient bust of Julius Caesar.[24][25]

Armstrong was deposed and, according to Receiver Alan M. Cohen, Armstrong admitted hiding the coins. However, Armstrong’s attorneys said in a court filing that Armstrong did not make this admission. The auction house now possesses the coins and the US government has filed suit to take possession.[24][25]

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19 posted on 08/21/2025 7:50:15 AM PDT by TexasGator (The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: SmokingJoe

Russia needs protection from itself.


20 posted on 08/21/2025 7:50:21 AM PDT by libh8er
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