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Trump: Impossible for Ukraine to win without attacking
Baha Breaking News ^ | 8/21/2025 | Christian Baha

Posted on 08/21/2025 6:51:20 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: marcusmaximus

I think his post is simply criticizing previous Democrat Presidents who basically told Ukraine not to attack back. Lets see what previous Dim Presidents did to Ukraine
- Clinton: “Non nuclear Ukraine will be important in non proliferation efforts!”
- Obama: “That Russian attacking Ukraine it means their standing in the worls is declining!”
- Biden: “Huh?”


41 posted on 08/21/2025 8:18:35 AM PDT by paudio (MATH: 45<47)
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To: paudio

Trump is stopping the U.S. policy of kicking the can down the road. This will end with Putin kicking himself in the rear.


42 posted on 08/21/2025 8:20:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Mariner; Williams
I think he is dumb enough to give them Tomahawks.

Maligning our president!

Crawl back into your hole and keep your anti-Trump slander to yourself!

I may not agree with everything which President Trump does or says - but he is definitely not "dumb."

Regards,

43 posted on 08/21/2025 8:22:02 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: marcusmaximus
A very important question: Why do the Russian People continue to allow evil dictators to commandeer their government and rule over them, to the endangerment of the entire world?

Another very important question: What can be done about it?

44 posted on 08/21/2025 8:26:20 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Were it not for Trump, woke would have been more devastating than all the horrors, wars and plagues.)
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To: GrumpyOldGuy
He’s gone from a war hater to a war monger.

Go back to Grumpyland and get back on your meds. Trump is a peace monger! Putin is the war monger who doesn't want peace in Ukraine until he has conquered Ukraine.

45 posted on 08/21/2025 8:28:52 AM PDT by libertylover (The HBM (Has Been Media) is almost all AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: Brian Griffin; TexasFreeper2009
TexasFreeper2009: Ukraine needs to completely eliminate all of Russia oil refinery capacity.

Brian Griffin: Only a small percentage of the Russian population drove cars in the CCCP.

The "small percentage" of private motor vehicles on the road during the Soviet era is totally irrelevant to this discussion! The fact remains that - today - petroleum accounts for more than 40% of Russia's overall exports. Disrupting those exports would cripple Russia's economy.

Brian Griffin: The Russian army hasn’t needed much fuel to move forward in Ukraine for years.

To imply that the Russian military isn't still heavily dependent upon petroleum products is ridiculous.

Brian Griffin: The Chinese and Indians buy Russian crude oil [...]

For now... But wait until President Trump's secondary sanctions kick in!

Regards,

46 posted on 08/21/2025 8:29:38 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Get lost.

You’re not even an American.


47 posted on 08/21/2025 8:34:54 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: marcusmaximus

Love Trump.

Posts something on Social Media AMBIGUOUS enough that it can be read in favor of both sides in the STUPID conflict.

Trump uses the term “win a war”.

His past comments have indicated that he doesn’t believe this “war” is winnable at least by the Ukraine.

Comments such as Russia is bigger.

A comment he recently made in which he referred to a conversation with the leader of Hungary where the leader pointed to the historic failures to conquer Russia.

The Zeepers may read this statement as that blue pill, but they need to settle down and cool off.


48 posted on 08/21/2025 8:41:09 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: marcusmaximus
So, there are two alternatives: 1) Concede the annexed area and, as Ukrainian constitution mandates, remain neutral toward Russia, which means removing any NATO military presence in Ukraine or 2) Lose everything east of the Dnieper river, probably Odessa, and thousands more lives.
49 posted on 08/21/2025 8:43:05 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: marcusmaximus

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115067056991519965

>>>>>>>>>>>>

Wow! Did Trump just pose that photo!?
Talk about menacing and trolling Russia!
Probably the most effective anti-Russia statement to date by Trump.

Russia’s mockery of America is becoming too much for Trump. He is clearly flexing his muscles now.


50 posted on 08/21/2025 8:55:19 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE (Silence against evil isn't neutrality, it's complicity. Oppose the Iran-Russia-North Korea Alliance!)
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To: Owen

“”””The article sounds like Trump is trying to sell weapons. To be expected. Probably would like them destroyed right after delivery so he can sell more.””””

A sleazy dig at the president.


51 posted on 08/21/2025 8:57:26 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: USA-FRANCE

Trump can be your best friend or your worst enemy. Looking more like Putin has chosen the latter.


52 posted on 08/21/2025 8:58:51 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ansel12

Just good business.


53 posted on 08/21/2025 9:03:05 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen

Disgusting the way you denigrate Trump, it also denigrates our country.


54 posted on 08/21/2025 9:06:08 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: alexander_busek

Brian Griffin: Only a small percentage of the Russian population drove cars in the CCCP.

“The “small percentage” of private motor vehicles on the road during the Soviet era is totally irrelevant to this discussion! The fact remains that - today - petroleum accounts for more than 40% of Russia’s overall exports. Disrupting those exports would cripple Russia’s economy.”

Russia needs few imports now, probably the most important are prescription drugs, which can come in under the same international law legal protection as food aid for Gaza does.

Russia surely already has imported the CNC machines its war industry needs.


55 posted on 08/21/2025 9:37:24 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: marcusmaximus
reiterated that the conflict between Ukraine and Russia would never have started if he had been president,

Putin said the same thing.

Putin is afraid of Trump, as he should be.

Putin was not afraid of Biden, or his handlers, because previously Obama had handed Crimea to Putin on a silver platter. In this, Putin misjudged ... Biden's handlers helped Ukraine defend itself, albeit in a half-assed way. They did the right thing for the wrong reasons, and did it badly. And now here we are: lots of unnecessary death and destruction caused by Putin's imperialism and Biden's projection of weakness.

56 posted on 08/21/2025 9:45:02 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: marcusmaximus
Russia bombed an American company with cruise missiles in Ukraine last night.

Probably by accident; they probably missed a nearby apartment complex. Bombing civilian neighborhoods is more Russia's speed ...

57 posted on 08/21/2025 9:46:27 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: alexander_busek

“To imply that the Russian military isn’t still heavily dependent upon petroleum products is ridiculous.”

Fuel for trains can come in by rail car from thousands of kilometers away.

A train can move a ton of freight 423 miles on a gallon of fuel.

As for trucks, they mainly have to travel short distances, from the train tracks to the artillery.

The Russian tanks aren’t going to be driven towards Ukrainians armed with Javelins.

The Russians lack a General Patton whose massive advance depended on lots of fuel.

The Russian military hasn’t gone anywhere fast for about three years.


58 posted on 08/21/2025 9:52:19 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Brian Griffin: The Chinese and Indians buy Russian crude oil [...]

“For now... But wait until President Trump’s secondary sanctions kick in!”

Even Trump isn’t stupid enough to secondary sanction the Chinese.

Russia can live without cashews from India.

Can US industry live without Chinese inputs?

Do take a look where Walmart and Amazon get their merchandise from.


59 posted on 08/21/2025 9:57:07 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Seems to me that Ukraine might be getting permission to use some long range weapons.

It’s about time.


60 posted on 08/21/2025 10:09:52 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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