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In Ukraine, the ‘Buts’ Win in the End
American Thinker ^ | 20 Aug, 2025 | J.B. Shurk

Posted on 08/20/2025 4:20:09 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 08/20/2025 4:20:09 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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It looks to me like Zelensky could be ready to flee the country. Putin is also in a precarious position in Russia.


2 posted on 08/20/2025 4:20:21 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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They’re squeezing more billions and military entanglements out of Trump and the US. Why would they want to stop or interfere with that?


3 posted on 08/20/2025 4:22:04 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: MtnClimber

Like with insolent teenagers, sometimes tough love is in order...


4 posted on 08/20/2025 4:23:27 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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"Those European and Chinese power-players who have long seen war between the Russian Federation and the United States as an opportunity to diminish both countries simultaneously will say all the right things in upbeat social media postings praising compromise, but they will regret that the America-last Biden administration is no longer around to stumble recklessly into nuclear war. Spy agencies across the West may pause their “color revolution” activities long enough to install a new Ukrainian puppet into the presidency, but they will continue their hybrid warfare operations in former Warsaw Pact countries."

Like what is going on in Serbia. Like the shenanigans in Romania and Georgia. And if you look at Fico in Slovakia or Orban in Hungary, there as well.

5 posted on 08/20/2025 5:23:59 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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The sooner Zelensky ends the war with Russia, the sooner Ukraine could hold an election and then Zelensky can start a civil war with whoever wins that. His alternative is to go into exile, but where can he go that where his preferred dress code is popular?


6 posted on 08/20/2025 5:32:22 AM PDT by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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“His alternative is to go into exile, but where can he go that where his preferred dress code is popular?”

Portland or Seattle.


7 posted on 08/20/2025 5:39:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (TDS much?)
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To: MtnClimber

No-one’s going to flee the country because no regimes are going to topple. Zelenskyy’s worst fear internally is losing an election; The window for Putin being ousted is closing. And powerful Russians always feel safest when the windows are closed.


8 posted on 08/20/2025 5:42:39 AM PDT by dangus
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Putin started the war...he can get the hell out.


9 posted on 08/20/2025 5:55:06 AM PDT by rrrod (Kamal lost...get over it.)
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To: dangus

Great comment.


10 posted on 08/20/2025 5:56:04 AM PDT by rrrod (Kamal lost...get over it.)
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From the article -- "BlackRock, J.P. Morgan, and other international investment houses will be happy to make money from lucrative rebuilding projects in Ukraine, but they will lament that the war did not topple President Putin and open up Russian lands to their profit-seeking conquest."

October 2023, almost two years ago, I cited quite the same in a comment to an FR thread.

"...many prominent investors, including Vanguard Group, Kopernik Global Investors, BNP Asset Management Holding, Goldman Sachs-owned NN Investment Partners Holdings, and Norges Bank Investment Management, which manages Norway's sovereign wealth fund. A number of large US pension funds, foundations, and university endowments are also invested in Ukrainian land through NCH Capital – a US-based private equity fund, which is the fifth largest landholder in the country."
Only this year:
"In 2025, the Ukrainian government plans to sell at least ten large companies to foreign investors, exceeding its $3.2 billion privatization revenue target for 2025.

Ukraine is continuing its large-scale privatization drive, aiming to sell off major state-owned enterprises and nationalized assets from sanctioned Russian oligarchs, acting State Property Fund of Ukraine (SPFU) head Ivanna Smachylo told Forbes Ukraine in an interview.

In 2024, the SPFU privatized the United Mining and Chemical Company (UMCC), a key titanium producer, and Aeroc, a gas concrete manufacturer previously owned by sanctioned Russian businessman Andrey Molchanov. Now, the government plans to sell at least ten large companies in an auction in 2025.

Ukraine Accelerates Privatization: Major Strategic Assets Up for Sale in 2025 Kyiv Post, 5 February 2025

So few media articles mention the Zelensky government's "State Property Fund of Ukraine." It's been selling for years, and some large consortiums have been buying. But they are not funding the war, as the last visit by European "leaders" to the White House seemed to be again seeking, along with photo ops of Merz, Macron, Starmer, von der Leyen, Meloni, Rutte and all.

A photo op with Larry Fink, Michael Maduell, George Rohr, Sandro Pierri, John E. Waldron, Nicolai Tangen and others will not be seen. But they are among the top brass in this war aiming to win no matter who loses, while urging mere governments to pay, and pay and pay some more.

The last list of names doesn't exactly tip off the tongue now, does it?

11 posted on 08/20/2025 6:14:10 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Zelenskyy simply does not have the authority to end the war under Ukraine law.
Ukraine law forbids presidential elections during wartime!


12 posted on 08/20/2025 6:15:52 AM PDT by BDParrish ("Do you see the CRJ)
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To: MtnClimber

Maybe if all those fighting-age Ukrainian males would leave the nurturing bosom of Poland and actually fight, Ukraine might have a better chance.


13 posted on 08/20/2025 6:17:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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This is not well thought out.

The loss of Crimea and the other oblasts joining Russia is where the pro Russia votes were that elected pro Russia candidates in Ukraine pre 2014. Those votes are gone.

They are one now, as well as the millions of refugees that have fled Ukraine and gone to Russia. Then other refugees who fled to Europe. They won’t vote, and if they did those votes coming from Russia won’t be counted.

I don’t see why a Zelensky election loss is likely.


14 posted on 08/20/2025 6:23:58 AM PDT by Owen
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And powerful Russians always feel safest when the windows are closed.

East Asians don't have a natural fear of heights. Healthy women have a natural aversion to snakes. Russians naturally have defenestraphobia.
15 posted on 08/20/2025 6:27:57 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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"Zelenskyy simply does not have the authority to end the war under Ukraine law.
Ukraine law forbids presidential elections during wartime!"

So. Zelensky doesn't have the authority to end the war (so why was he in DC?), but because there is a war, there can't be an election, therefore keeping in place the person who doesn't have the authority to end the war.

The Church Lady might say "that's convenient".

16 posted on 08/20/2025 6:33:53 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: dfwgator

zgłaszasz się na ochotnika


17 posted on 08/20/2025 6:47:03 AM PDT by heylady
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Documenting.

Ukraine’s defense spending as a percentage of GDP remained relatively low in the early 2010s but began to increase significantly following Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014, reflecting heightened security concerns. Based on data from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), the percentages for the years 2010 to 2021 are as follows:
• 2010: 1.9%
• 2011: 1.5%
• 2012: 1.6%
• 2013: 1.6%
• 2014: 2.2%
• 2015: 3.3%
• 2016: 3.67%
• 2017: 3.24%
• 2018: 3.64%
• 2019: 4.07%
• 2020: 4.4%
• 2021: 3.43%


18 posted on 08/20/2025 6:59:09 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (US spending on Ukraine over 3.5 years exceeds the all military aid to Israel over 77 years. - Grok)
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Israel’s defense spending (military expenditure) as a percentage of GDP in the years leading up to the October 7, 2023, Hamas attack showed a general downward trend, fluctuating between approximately 4.5% and 5.9% from 2010 to 2022. This data is sourced from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), a leading authority on global military spending. Below is a year-by-year breakdown:
• 2010: 5.9% 
• 2011: 5.8% 
• 2012: 5.7% 
• 2013: 5.6% 
• 2014: 5.8% 
• 2015: 5.5% 
• 2016: 5.5% 
• 2017: 5.5% 
• 2018: 5.3% 
• 2019: 5.2% 
• 2020: 5.6% 
• 2021: 5.2% 
• 2022: 4.5% 


19 posted on 08/20/2025 7:08:08 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (US spending on Ukraine over 3.5 years exceeds the all military aid to Israel over 77 years. - Grok)
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To: Tench_Coxe; BDParrish
>> "Zelenskyy simply does not have the authority to end the war under Ukraine law. Ukraine law forbids presidential elections during wartime!" <<

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>> "Zelensky doesn't have the authority to end the war (so why was he in DC?), but because there is a war, there can't be an election, therefore keeping in place the person who doesn't have the authority to end the war. The Church Lady might say "that's convenient". <<

The statement that he is forbidden to hold elections in wartime, is 100% incorrect.
There is no such law.

Zelensky declared martial law on February 24, 2022, knowing Ukraine's constitution mandates that elections cannot go ahead until any declaration of martial law is lifted.
The duration of martial law and general mobilization in Ukraine has to be extended every 90 days.
Zelensky's regime has voted and he has signed a martial law extension  16 times already.
IOW, if he would let the martial law and general mobilization extension expire, elections could be held.
He is trying to avoid any elections, because he knows, he would be ousted by a large majority of voters!
He simply denies the Ukrainian people the elections they want and deserve.
20 posted on 08/20/2025 7:09:07 AM PDT by ANKE69 (“I said once that it smells of authoritarianism in our country. Now it stinks.” Vitali Klitschko)
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