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When Will World War II End in Japan?
Foreign Policy ^ | Aug 15 | By Alexander Wooley

Posted on 08/18/2025 6:24:47 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: GingisK

My interest was in TV, but those movies you listed aren’t even about civilian characters whose character is labeled as a distant Vietnam War veteran. they are war movies.

Archie Bunker was identified as a WWII veteran, a lovable character, Ward Cleaver, Beaver’s dad was a WWII vet, Andy Griffith’s Andy Taylor, was a WWII vet, The Skipper on Gilligan’s island WWII, and in modern shows I have seen lovable sit-com characters who could be Korean War vets such as Frasier’s dad.

They even make comedies of the other wars, McHale’s navy, MASH.


21 posted on 08/18/2025 11:40:58 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
Oh, now I understand your viewpoint. Maybe this has to do with the 60s hippies now in TV-show roles. They were anti-war and anti-vet to the point of being very poisonous. They merely carried that into their careers, and it remains targeted at their own age group. It appears their hard feelings do not extend to the veterans of previous wars or even recent ones.

Hippy types can never be confused with deep thinkers.

22 posted on 08/18/2025 11:57:00 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Aside from how you misuse the word hippie, the Vietnam vets were treated much, much worse by the old writers and TV executives of the late 60s and 1970s, when they were almost always portrayed as mentally unstable and sniper killers.

Did you know that the strongest support for the Vietnam War was from the under 30 age group, an age group that voted 52% for Nixon in 1972?


23 posted on 08/18/2025 12:04:47 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: RandFan
My dad served in '52ish in Japan and the American forces were still "occupying forces" and the US military was running the country.

Regarding peace with the Soviet Union, whatever, that doesnt exist and Russia is not equal to them. It would be like if we had a treaty with East Germany, oh well, that's over by default isn't it?

24 posted on 08/18/2025 12:41:57 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: ansel12
Aside from how you misuse the word hippie

I don't think I an misusing that tag. They are leftist flower-children.

The ill feelings from that period will probably never be forgotten. They see us as "Lt. Calley", and I see them as "Jane Fonda".

25 posted on 08/18/2025 3:11:23 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Sure, some vague “they” which you think were hippies who dropped out of society yet became television executives and presidents.

You are confusing democratic party people with hippies.


26 posted on 08/18/2025 3:18:31 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
You are confusing democratic party people with hippies.

No, old hippies are a subset of Democratic party people who were the demonstrating leftist rabble rousers of the 1960s. Most of them settled down to become school teachers and other government employees. Some went into media. Their children, not hippies, became the balance of the Democratic party. So did some of our children, those who swallowed the hubris of leftist teachers.

I know this to be true. My younger brother was a flower-child in the 1960s; and, he recently retired from education. He can't talk to me without lapsing into vulgarity and profanity and pulling the race card. His children are just like him.

They hate their conservative counterparts with a passion.

27 posted on 08/18/2025 3:36:12 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

You don’t know it to be true, because your simple and incorrect view of the 60s is shallow.

By the way, what years was your brother getting his degrees?


28 posted on 08/18/2025 3:41:08 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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because your simple and incorrect view of the 60s is shallow.

That is pretty funny! I was born in 1949. When 1970 hit I was 21. I lived through the 1960.

How about you tell me what you think is a correct view of the 1960s.

29 posted on 08/18/2025 3:51:37 PM PDT by GingisK
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By the way, what years was your brother getting his degrees?

A couple of years after I got mine.

30 posted on 08/18/2025 3:52:49 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

His was in Education. Mine was Computer Science with Physics and Math minors.


31 posted on 08/18/2025 3:54:42 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: ansel12

I was kind of hoping you’d get back to me for that 1960s schooling.


32 posted on 08/18/2025 4:46:43 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

You didn’t want to say what years your brother was attending college?


33 posted on 08/18/2025 5:02:14 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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He is six years younger than I. I went to college in 1967 and graduated in 1972. So, that must mean he started college in 1973. I'm not sure of the year he graduated because he farted around at two colleges. If he shot right through he graduated in 1977; but, I don't think that was the case. My college was a five year stent because I started out majoring in physics and math, then switched to computer science in my senior year.

I was commissioned in the Army upon graduating, and they moved me from Infantry to Adjutant General Corps because of my degree. Because of the way Nixon performed force reduction, I was swept out of active duty right after OBC. I think that was actually earmarked before I was commissioned. Branch changes for retention were prohibited for some reason. Eight years in Reserves.

My brother and his first wife were both flower-wearing, tie-dyed people who attended numerous demonstrations. That was winding down in that time frame. He is a heavy pot smoker to this day. He is a mess. But, he started his career as an English teacher and later became the principle of a high school. He retired from a position as an assistant superintendent of schools.

His son is as nasty as he, a chip off the old block.

34 posted on 08/18/2025 5:33:28 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: ansel12

When are you going to explain the 1960s to me?


35 posted on 08/18/2025 5:35:59 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Explaining all that is too complex and would take days and you wouldn’t understand anyway, because you didn’t experience them much or learn about them while you were in that era, you said your brother was a flower child, was that before or after college, and why is it a secret when he attended college?

What areas was he living in during his hippie days?


36 posted on 08/18/2025 5:48:39 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: GingisK

Sorry, I was responding to your post 35, I didn’t scroll down far enough to see that you made another post.

Your brother sounds like he missed the hippie days, or else started college very, very late, anyway, he is just a liberal, he was not a flower child.

I remember those force reduction days, I felt bad for the guys, especially the battlefield promotion guys.


37 posted on 08/18/2025 5:54:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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