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To: marcusmaximus

Essentially, in this “land swap” Putin gives up nothing. Ukraine gives up a huge swath of territory in exchange for a promise that Putin won’t demand more.

This is a non-starter.


16 posted on 08/16/2025 8:37:13 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron

If that happens, I wonder what financial price President Trump will need from Putin - if any.


47 posted on 08/16/2025 9:06:56 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (Pray for President Trump)
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To: marron

Giving up even part of Zaporozhye and Kherson is a “ big deal” since the Russian duma voted to make them part of the RF after they voted by referendum to join Russia.

I would guess the Nuc Power Plant stays under Russian control or maybe an international team. Since the Ukes tried and failed by attacks to make it a dirty bomb many times in the past until the IAEA moved in a monitoring team. And eastern Ukraine will need power to rebuild.

If Z wants to dither, the territory in Donetsk and Luhansk not yet captured…could be by fall. At the cost of another 5,000 or so mostly Uke lives per week.

I presume Trumps team got no-bullsh*t casualty counts per side from the Russians. And will confront Zelensky with his role in sending over a million men to die to achieve absolutely nothing except what Russia chose to pull back from early in the war ( Kharkov and Kherson city)


59 posted on 08/16/2025 9:18:12 AM PDT by silverleaf (M:“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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