Posted on 08/16/2025 8:23:15 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Russia has no chance against NATO. But Putin also knows they won’t go to war with him over eastern Ukraine. But at the same time, if he did give up his gains in Ukraine, he wouldn’t last very long.
Trump is trying to give him an ‘out’.
I should have been clearer.
I have no interest in fighting for Ukraine, but there has never been a shortage of Americans willing to get on a ship or plane and go to another country to do someone else's heavy lifting for them. (It's an IQ test we fail time and time again.)
Spin it anyway you like but Russia's land objectives coming in were Donetsk, Lugansk and to land bridge it built from mainland Russia to Crimea.
Russia will end up with all of that.
It's other objective was to demilitarize Ukraine and assure it would end involvement with NATO and don't see anyway Russia isn't getting that in any peace deal.
Not really since part of those oblasts are west of the Dnieper river and would have been hard to defend.
Russia's only objective in those oblasts was to build a land bridge from Crimea to mainland Russia in order to protect its naval base there.
Zelensky and his EU handlers will refuse; will insist on keeping areas he could not keep during the war and essentially demanding Russia surrender. It won’t happen.
Zelensky will have to be removed to secure peace.
What the Russians are doing in Ukrain would be like the British attacking New Dehli to reestablish the Raj.
Russians are not a good “road team”. You’d be nuts to try to invade Russia, but they aren’t nearly as good on offense.
‘“He is running out of troops”’
You realize, that that was not ‘my’ quote. It was a quote from POGO163. So I will address your response also to POGO163.
That said.... the damned war has gone on way too long already...over a decade. Too many men (and civilians) dead and dying. No country can survive, much less prosper, under those conditions. Nobody but a demonic fool would choose to continue on with it.
It’s the worst deal possible - except for the alternative
The Russians were not a good road team, but the Germans were not much better. Both had terrible logistics. Russian soldiers said that if they had had Studebaker trucks in 1941, they would have been in Berlin in 1943. Every German infantry company had one horse-drawn wagon and no motor vehicles. They marched into Russia in winter with wagons drawn by a two-horse team.
NYT lies so much ,i’m not buying this .will wait to hear trump.
NYT’s fake starving child tells all one needs to know about them!
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still, i hope that putin did offer peace for donbas.
PorkRoast is going fast.Donbas capture pace has quickened.
better yet if he offered return some territory around Sumy/Kharkov.(face saving for Z-ski)
if so Z should take it but at least reason for another meeting. Even if they have to fight another 3,6 or 12 months , then Z-ski will have less mouths to feed and less land to protect. Surely a win/win...land swaps sound difficult,
You are delusional.
fagboy z nuthuggers want more dead Christians, just like obama and brandon. The war must continue for these satanists.
Thanks for the research my friend....I figured as much.
So, your demonic fool Putin should stop! That would end the war....
US gets the following in return.
Chukotka Autonomous Okrug
Jewish Autonomous Oblast
Kamchatka Krai
Khabarovsk Krai
Magadan Oblast
Primorsky Krai
Sakhalin Oblast
Your ability to understand the written word is very lacking...
Yes, I realized it, just didn’t make it clear, apologies.
The ZNPP is the largest in Europe and seizing it was one of the first Russian objectives in 2022…along with Chernobyl and the US-built and operated Biolabs in eastern and central Ukraine.
The NPP is now in cold shutdown with an IAEA monitoring team onsite…both Russians and Ukes working there.
The future activity at ZNPP and the biolabs will be among security concerns negotiated.
The UN and the world refused to listen to what the Russians found at the biolabs. The Russian general who led the investigation and amassed evidence was assassinated by Prob Ukrainian (?) intel several months ago
“”Yes, I realized it, just didn’t make it clear, apologies.””
No problem. No need for apology.
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