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CRUNCH TIME in Alaska: Trump set to meet Putin in push for Ukraine Peace
BBC ^ | Aug 14 | BBC

Posted on 08/14/2025 6:35:37 PM PDT by RandFan

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To: Salohcin

“So you are advocating for the ethnic cleansing of the 80% of Ukraine’s population who are ethnic Ukrainians?”

The Ukrainians will have the option to leave if they don’t like living the way they lived from 1991 to 2014 as that’s what they’ll be going back to.


41 posted on 08/15/2025 8:21:33 AM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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Not necessarily, but certainly no more credibility than anything done under the Russians.

Please explain how Russia can claim the Zaporizhzhia oblasts voted to join Russian when the City of Zaporizhzhia did not participate. I have asked this question many times and you never answer it.

42 posted on 08/15/2025 8:21:41 AM PDT by Petrosius
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“Please explain how Russia can claim the Zaporizhzhia oblasts voted to join Russian when the City of Zaporizhzhia did not participate. I have asked this question many times and you never answer it.”

Good to see you’re conceding the other Oblasts. As to the city, of Zaporizhzhia, they had the option but their Neocon-installed government instead chose to boycott - their choice.


43 posted on 08/15/2025 8:23:36 AM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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Finland has the same rules? Their government has to be approved by Moscow? They have only a token military that could not repel a Russian invasion? Russian is an official language of Finland? The answer to all of these is no.


44 posted on 08/15/2025 8:26:37 AM PDT by Petrosius
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Good to see you’re conceding the other Oblasts.

I am conceding nothing, just illustrating how absurd the Russian claims are with the most egregious example.

As to the city, of Zaporizhzhia, they had the option but their Neocon-installed government instead chose to boycott - their choice.

Nice try. The government of the City of Zaporizhzhia was elected by their people, not "installed." Nor is Russia allowing them to have their choice. They are claiming that the entire oblast voted to join Russian and are demanding that Ukraine hand over the city.

But you still have not addressed how Russia can claim the entire oblast when the City of Zaporizhzia did not participate in the referendum.

45 posted on 08/15/2025 8:31:34 AM PDT by Petrosius
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Rationalizing ethnic cleansing, that’s not a good look for you Bob.


46 posted on 08/15/2025 8:32:22 AM PDT by Salohcin
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“Finland has the same rules?” Pretty much - at least HAD the same rules, until the Neocons took over there.

“Their government has to be approved by Moscow?” That demand is in your imagination, unless you have a link to it.

“They have only a token military that could not repel a Russian invasion?” Certainly the case until they joined NATO.

“Russian is an official language of Finland?” Not necessary there, but is necessary in parts of Ukraine, per UN charter.

Best not to ask questions and then answer incorrectly.


47 posted on 08/15/2025 8:32:49 AM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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“Finland has the same rules?” Pretty much - at least HAD the same rules, until the Neocons took over there.

Again, anyone who opposes the Russians must be "Neocons." I am surprised that you did not call them Nazis.

“Their government has to be approved by Moscow?” That demand is in your imagination, unless you have a link to it.

This is what Russia demands under the rubric of "de-Nazification." For the Russians, a government opposed to Russian domination is "Nazi," even if freely elected. Let's not pretend otherwise.

“They have only a token military that could not repel a Russian invasion?” Certainly the case until they joined NATO.

Finland has a robust military and can field a force of 280,000. It is not the token force that Russia is demanding of Ukraine.

“Russian is an official language of Finland?” Not necessary there, but is necessary in parts of Ukraine, per UN charter.

Russia is not demanding only it for Russian speaking provinces but for the whole country. They also want to prevent the promotion of Ukrainian in preference to Russian. Russian is to be maintained as a privileged language.

48 posted on 08/15/2025 8:50:53 AM PDT by Petrosius
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BobL is a Russian chauvinist; logic won’t work with him.


49 posted on 08/15/2025 9:10:03 AM PDT by Salohcin
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