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1 posted on 08/12/2025 6:03:09 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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They should pay attention to the power problems in Europe.


2 posted on 08/12/2025 6:03:25 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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The philosophy of the Left is based on lies and fantasy.

It has survived because the vast increases in productivity, created by the free market economy, has allowed them to steal resources from all the producers, even as the general population slowly increases their standard of living.


3 posted on 08/12/2025 6:13:08 AM PDT by marktwain
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Their arrogance, hippocracy and stupidity will eventually come home to bite em good and hard right square in the arse. Unfortunately, those that will suffer the most will be the great “unwashed masses” to the.point where there’ll be a massive revolt of some kind.


4 posted on 08/12/2025 6:13:15 AM PDT by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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does NY have untapped hydro potential? sincere question


5 posted on 08/12/2025 6:14:06 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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New York’s Official Energy Plan Is No Plan
New York’s Official Crime Plan Is No Plan
New York’s Official Homeless Plan Is No Plan
New York’s Official Growth Plan Is No Plan
New York’s Official Revenue Plan Is To Tax ‘Em ‘Til It Hurts.
New York’s Official DEI Plan Is A Full and Extensive Bureaucracy


6 posted on 08/12/2025 6:14:54 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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Thanks for posting. Looks like the NYISO quote: "Until new, non-emitting alternatives like hydrogen or advanced nuclear generation are developed and commercialized, fossil resources are needed to fill an essential role in preserving reliable grid operations" is the closest thing they have to a plan. The plan (or suggestion) is, basically, quit shutting down dependable power (fossil resources, I prefer the more accurate term hydrocarbons). The suggestion for the future is hydrogen and/or nuclear. Of course, that means the future is nuclear.

They're basically admitting that conservatives are right about energy, but as quietly as possible.

7 posted on 08/12/2025 6:15:44 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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New York has incredible gas supplies just above the PA border but NYS won’t allow fracking. If they did, the upstate population would become greater and more wealthy and have more Republican voters - all bad for Dems so they don’t allow it.


8 posted on 08/12/2025 6:16:22 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Good time to study up on how neolithic cultures survived.


9 posted on 08/12/2025 6:16:26 AM PDT by fruser1
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New York is one of the most energy-efficient states in the nation based on energy use per person...

The reason is not efficiency, but rather population density. Supply power to a rural town of 5,000 in Kansas means stringing miles of high tension cables from one distribution center to the next and dividing those cost over a relatively small number of customers. However, stringing the same number of miles of cable in NY can be spread over tens of thousands of customers. Such crap is from Chapter 1 of Huff's How to Lie With Statistics.

10 posted on 08/12/2025 6:23:24 AM PDT by econjack
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[[Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act. ]]

Weird how every “community protection act” ends up pilfering hard earned money from. The working class, making them less safe!


11 posted on 08/12/2025 6:26:54 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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[[ hundreds of pages of bafflegab]]

Word of the day... Bafflegab


14 posted on 08/12/2025 6:32:58 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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Their plan is to let the peasants freeze and starve in the dark.


16 posted on 08/12/2025 6:37:00 AM PDT by flamberge (The times, they are a' changing.)
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Being partly carbon, I do not intend to have “a small application of political will “ turn me, my family and friends into “zero-carbon” before God wills it.
17 posted on 08/12/2025 6:38:47 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Same in California - where b/c of the governor’s “Green Mandates” we pay double and even triple the electricity rates of other states - he’s also declared war on the oil companies - two refineries are shutting down this year - and gas is at $4.50/gallon, ≈ $1.50 to $2.00/gallon more expensive than in other states.

All of this has not caused an upsurge in electric cars, people do not want them - and we do not have the electric grid to support them. Doom Loop.

Governor is now panicking and trying to find a buyer for one of the refineries.


20 posted on 08/12/2025 7:22:06 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolutioan?)
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There’has never been any well engineered “green” plan, merely demands and mandates that certain “goals” be achieved but never ever any real plan for how to get there. To the Dims it has always been as if all they had to do was declare a legal goal and voila it would happen.


21 posted on 08/12/2025 7:39:52 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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Thanks. Menton is one of the few great commentators on energy planning as done by governments.

He didn’t highlight one thing I thought might be new fron the state planners:

“Simply put, as New York seeks to retire more fossil fuel units in the coming years it will be essential to deploy new energy resources with the same reliability attributes to maintain grid reliability.”

A concern about reliability? Did they learn a lesson from the recent Spain and Portugal grid collapse?


22 posted on 08/12/2025 8:04:16 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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Unicorn farts will solve the impending crisis.


23 posted on 08/12/2025 8:18:22 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior
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NYSEG is foreign-owned.

Nuff said.


26 posted on 08/12/2025 11:04:58 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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