The Godfather Fans Only Just Solve Subplot Which Left Them Stumped for Decades

Express ^ | on, Jul 28, 2025 | Ewan Gleadow

[Charles Martel]

This "novelty throw pillow" is an actual product.

[frank ballenger]

Ha. If he had time he would clench a pencil between his teeth and dial 911.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msmoDQptcxA

Easier with touch tone but that was after his time.

[Campion]

I don’t know about the horse, but Frank Sinatra was so angry about the whole “Johnny Fontane” subplot that he nearly came to blows with Mario Puzo in a restaurant.

[tumblindice]

Sonny gave him a hard time because they got him a deferment but he joined the Marines anyway.

[nickcarraway]

Why did he take the role?

[dfwgator]

“Your country is not your blood!”

[If You Want It Fixed - Fix It]

Horrid Writing Award!

Give this writer a different job please. Perhaps turning a stop/slow sign at a road site.

[dfwgator]

The thing is, the mob actually did protect our ports against sabotage during WWII.

Operation Underworld
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Underworld

[edwinland]

I agree. Nothing was solved. There’s a police officer in the stable so they speculate that the police officer was hired to guard the horse. What???

[Dr. Sivana]

Sonny mocks him as a “nice college boy” with no experience of killing up close. It makes no sense.

Sonny was against Michael enlisting in the first place, putting your life at risk for someone not your family.

[The Louiswu]

Made the officer an offer he couldn’t refuse.

[freefdny]

“You know, Mike, we was all proud of you being a hero and all. Your father too,” is said by Peter Clemenza to Michael Corleone in The Godfather.

[Dr. Sivana]

Someday I’ll probably watch that movie.

I had not seen it, and BlackElk (RIP) was always telling me how great it was.I joked that if it was so great, that I should wait for it to return to the big screen,

There was a re-release for the 25th anniversary. I was 33 at the time, and I went in knowing nothing about the story. It was fantastic.

However, since the expiration date on spoilers is long gone, you should NOT be reading threads like this one. If you can see it on the big screen, I recommend it. Coppolla has made bad movies. I have never seen him make a bad looking movie, especially period pieces (Tucker, Cotton Club, Peggy Sue Got Married). I have yet to see GF II on the big screen, but I will when I can. There are more theatres showing classics these days.

[nickcarraway]

I saw I and II on the big screen in 2009.

[drSteve78]

I feel like I read that twice.

I read it twice twice and still don’t understand it. Not a problem for me.

[discostu]

Michael was the one that was supposed to get out of the life. And Sonny doesn’t know anything about the war. So he kind of resents Michael, both for being “chosen” to get out, and for almost wasting that going to war, and then for volunteering to be a button man which Sonny doesn’t think he’s prepared for. Makes perfect sense.

[dfwgator]

Sonny wasn’t very smart.

If he had gotten an EZ-Pass, he might still be alive. ;)

[Dr. Sivana]

Great choice. And, if you do not know the story, the suspense is heightened in the restaurant scene, because you don’t know what is going to happen (this presumes you don’t know the cast for GF II as well, and I didn’t.) The Appolonia scene was also a shocker. Great cinematography, great casting. Tight story. Touches mob cliches without becoming a cartoon. And smart people can come to different conclusions as to the underlying meaning. Mrs. BlackElk, who is no dummy, thought it glamourized/glorified mob life, and I came to the opposite conclusion, even before GF II.

[dfwgator]

The Appolonia scene was also a shocker.

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Too bad GFII skipped the scene where Michael gets his revenge on Fabrizio.

[nickcarraway]

The movie Coppola made in between I and II, The Conversation was just as good.