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1 posted on 08/09/2025 2:16:42 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

They don’t think of it as cheating, just another tool in completing assignments. Where this leads no one knows for sure, except that learning is going to change into something we cannot yet imagine.

My father was an electronics expert, but he decided to retire when the vacuum tube era was being replaced by semiconductor technology. For the first time I understand how he felt: I am too old to change to what’s coming with AI, and old enough to hand my classes to professors who can—as long as they aren’t woke, and there’s a growing number of those as well.


2 posted on 08/09/2025 2:34:55 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Openurmind

Some will use it to cheat. Others will use it as a learning assistant.


3 posted on 08/09/2025 3:08:20 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Openurmind

If it’s ok to give calculators to kindergartners to do math, what’s the problem with ChatGPT?


5 posted on 08/09/2025 3:45:11 AM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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To: Openurmind

Writing is a hard skill to develop.

Every student should be working toward the goal of concise, punchy, trenchant, hopefully witty and persuasive, prose.

AI can certainly be used as a tool, like anything else, but not as a substitute for find one’s own adult voice.


6 posted on 08/09/2025 3:52:34 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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...finding...

(proofreading—another essential skill...or discipline? Lol)


7 posted on 08/09/2025 3:55:04 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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BTTT


8 posted on 08/09/2025 4:03:10 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Openurmind

It’s not a writing tool or assistant. It is a cheat program no matter how it’s labeled or marketed. However, spotting AI student submissions means the instructor better have some solid writing skills.

On the surface, AI submissions look well researched or “fulfilling” the writing assignment. That’s their weakness. I can spot them because they do not develop the topic (if a research paper) and are redundant. For fiction writing, characters do not develop nor are they characterized in a meaningful way. Plots are glaringly vacant of a good storyline.

The real problem is that we have a generation with very low reading and writing comprehension skills. In public education, critical thinking without leftist agenda directives has become non-existent.

I suspect there is not much in the way of motivation or policy to deal with AI submissions for assignments.

Of course, reading and writing go hand in hand. AI gives a boost to the students who do not have good reading or research skills. They rely on it for inputting information and regurgitating it. Yes, it’s that bad. Think of what this means for the future of students in high school and college right now.


10 posted on 08/09/2025 4:12:20 AM PDT by Billie Bud
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“ChatGPT Usage Dips 20-30% on Breaks, Hinting at Student Cheating”

campus library usage drops even more then ... must be massive cheating going on there too, right?


11 posted on 08/09/2025 4:22:38 AM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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Profs need to assign reading and studying homework, but all graded material is done in class (quiz, exam, oral questions).

Bring back blue books!


12 posted on 08/09/2025 5:01:55 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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My daughter is a HS teacher and she has tools to determine if a paper was written by AI and had to fail a couple students. Like someone else mentioned use it for research but I would still independently source any scholastic paper.


14 posted on 08/09/2025 5:06:10 AM PDT by Mean Daddy
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I really don’t want to be diagnosed by a doctor who relied on AI to get through medical school.


15 posted on 08/09/2025 5:16:17 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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Total BS.

Even AI would not create such a stupid article.

SummerS?? school yearS??

How many have we had with AI?

No.....kids chat, disagree, use AI to find an answer.

Kids and adults also are tiring of AI uselessness for some things and have better things to fo in summer.

More crap.


17 posted on 08/09/2025 5:26:22 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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I wouldn’t say it’s purely cheating. Though I am sure many are.

Being able to ask questions to understand complex concepts isn’t “cheating”.

Though you can wind up following mirages especially on specific details and implementation.. it actually do a reasonable job of distilling information into consumable bites.


18 posted on 08/09/2025 5:44:02 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ( )
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And if the students are not using ChatGBT to do their coursework, they call on Mom to help them when they apply for and get a job.

https://www.resumetemplates.com/nearly-half-of-gen-zers-have-mom-regularly-talk-to-their-boss/


21 posted on 08/09/2025 6:06:15 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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I’m not in school, but I did a test for my own curiosity. All the quotes it came up with were made up.


30 posted on 08/09/2025 8:08:46 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Bring back the Blue Books.


33 posted on 08/09/2025 9:51:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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There is a smart approach to using AI, that I use. I go to Claude Desktop (I prefer that over Chat GPT), and state an assertion, and then I ask it to “Change My Mind”, where it will then go and try to counter my assertion, I also make it clear I want citations to back up what it’s saying. You can actually have an interesting conversation to bounce ideas off of it, but it’s not just being spoonfed things that I just regurgitate.


37 posted on 08/09/2025 9:56:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Hinting?


45 posted on 08/09/2025 1:22:28 PM PDT by MortMan (Charter member of AAAAA - American Association Against Alliteration Abuse)
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