Posted on 08/06/2025 5:19:49 PM PDT by MtnClimber
Like a sack full of absentee ballots found in a swimming pool supply shed.
Bravo for those who surreptitiously refused to destroy the evidence, then concealed their acts.
Consider those who wanted to destroy the documentary evidence, a cabinet level official would not himself hand-deliver bags to a furnace, so he might instruct a subordinate. The subordinate might not be told the contents for obvious reasons. The bags might've been carelessly treated.
The high official does not want his fingerprints on this business so he delegated the destruction of documents in such a way that even the delegation is not traceable and, when not traceable, not so easily supervised or controlled.
He may have ordered it put in a room, thinking it would automatically be burned, but he was ignorant of the actual mechanics of burning documents and so simply succeeded in storing everything for later discovery in the wrong room.
Everyone in the chain of destroying documents who was knowledgeable of their damning contents would be equally anxious to avoid leaving their fingerprints behind. Thus, the opportunities for missteps compound.
Finally, government efficiency only exists when matters are done by the numbers, deviation from the ordinary course, such as would be necessary to hide tracks, might well result in a banal miscarriage of mischief.
I spent 45 years working in military and GS and when burn bags are used to get rid of classified or sensitive papers the mindset is that when placed in the bag it is gone for good. The actual burning of the materials is handed off to an lower staff member for administrative assistant who may not be in a big hurry to spend hours burning the stuff or a contacted agency that does the burning simply may not get around to pick it up as frequently as expected. So I firmly believe that the crooks thought the stuff was ashes when they left and now it looks like they will be the ones getting burned instead.
I spent 45 years working in military and GS and when burn bags are used to get rid of classified or sensitive papers the mindset is that when placed in the bag it is gone for good. The actual burning of the materials is handed off to an lower staff member for administrative assistant who may not be in a big hurry to spend hours burning the stuff or a contacted agency that does the burning simply may not get around to pick it up as frequently as expected. So I firmly believe that the crooks thought the stuff was ashes when they left and now it looks like they will be the ones getting burned instead.
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The implications of Patel’s discovery and Grassley’s declassification are staggering—but they barely scratch the surface of what the annex actually reveals.
That story—the memos, the names, and the strategy they buried—deserves its own reckoning. And it’s coming next.
But first, did the concealment and intended destruction of these records violate federal law? Here’s a quick digest:
18 U.S.C. § 2071 – Concealment or destruction of federal records
This statute makes it a crime to remove, destroy, or hide federal records deliberately. That includes anything from official memos to internal investigative documents. A conviction can carry up to three years in prison, and—critically—can bar the offender from holding public office.
18 U.S.C. § 1519 – Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
Applies to anyone who “knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record… with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States.”
Penalty: up to 20 years in prison.
18 U.S.C. § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before Congress or federal agencies
Covers efforts to influence, obstruct, or impede proceedings before departments, agencies, or Congress, using threats, force, intimidation, or corrupt persuasion, with knowledge of a pending proceeding or a foreseeable agency action.
In this case, if senior officials knew these materials were responsive to congressional or DOJ inquiries—and ordered them placed into destruction queues anyway—then “corrupt persuasion” under the statute could apply. Concealing or routing those records for destruction, outside the normal redaction or archival procedures, may constitute a deliberate attempt to obstruct lawful oversight or pending investigations.
Penalty: up to 5 years in prison.
18 U.S.C. § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents
Criminalizes improper retention of classified documents by government officials, including knowingly removing such materials without authority and failing to return them to proper custody. This is a highly fact-specific analysis that could result in successful criminal prosecution if the elements of the crime are met.
Penalty: up to 5 years in prison.
18 U.S.C. § 793(f)–(g) – Espionage Act: gross negligence and conspiracy involving national defense information
Penalizes grossly negligent handling of national defense-related classified materials, including failure to report their loss or destruction.
Covers conspiracies to commit any such offense.
Penalty: up to 10 years in prison.
And why the Hades did these bloody idiots fill the burn bags with their own evidence of crimes. Then just leave them in a room?
/Obama Library? Or merely incompetent? Left for Hillary’s library?
The answer is simple:
“That’s not MY job, man.”................
Your description of the situation is certainly plausible and well reasoned. The other possibility is that the docs were left behind to be found. I hope you are correct.
No matter how smart they claim to be, first and foremost, government is incompetent.
I see it a little differently: People accustomed to unaccountable power get lazy.
Who knows on this deal. But with this information it means that all those who conspired will “burn, baby, burn!”.
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