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Disfigured, shamed and forgotten: BBC visits the Korean survivors of the Hiroshima bomb
BBC ^ | Aug 5 | BBC

Posted on 08/05/2025 3:37:00 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: RandFan

Japan’s fault.

They started it.

They refused to surrender.

Nuking was less deadly than invasion.

They deserved it.

Sounds like gaza.


41 posted on 08/05/2025 7:46:37 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Angelino97’s 100% anti-Semitic lie: “Settlers tend to be ultra-Orthodox Jews, armed with Uzis.”)
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To: Robe

How many people would have died in a hundred Tokyo type Fire Bombings? Conventional weapons killed 100,000 Japanese in one attack. How many Japanese people would be killed by ten more such attacks? Even the average modern Japanese Citizen of today knows that the good guys won the war.


42 posted on 08/05/2025 7:48:00 AM PDT by Colt1851Navy (What was wrong with riminalNixon?)
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To: Ditto
Yes, the third bomb was being "buttoned up" for shipment in Los Alamos when word arrived of the Japanese surrender.

The US had the capacity for one to two "Fat Man" implosion weapons per month, and one "Little Boy" gun-type weapon every 4 months or so. This held true until sometime in 1946 or 47, when "Wigner energy" issues reduced plutonium production in Hanford (until the problem was solved).

43 posted on 08/05/2025 7:55:03 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: Fury

>> The common Japanese person knew almost nothing about war atrocities.

Yet more totally unsupported left wing spew from the #1 marxist troll at FR.
Talk about speaking from ignorance! Pot, kettle, black.


44 posted on 08/05/2025 8:04:10 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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To: Donbue

I stand by my statement. The everyday Japanese citizen who was not in the Army or government knew little to anything of the atrocities committed as news was tightly controlled by the government by order of the military.

You have the chance to back up your claim that “every damn on of them knew what was going on”. Go ahead.


45 posted on 08/05/2025 8:19:40 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Skwor

Again as I posted previously, I’m not making excuses for the atrocities. I wrote and which you simply can’t understand is that news of those atrocities were tightly controlled by the government. The average Japanese citizen was supporting the war effort.


46 posted on 08/05/2025 8:21:47 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Nervous Tick

Exactly what I expected from you - can’t argue the point, so make it personal.

Do better.


47 posted on 08/05/2025 8:22:44 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Fury

Wrong, their feudal society literally thrived on unquestionable obedience and the full knowledge of brutal cruelty to those who lose or fail to fight until they die.

Culturally they were bankrupt as a nation which led to millions of massacred Chinese, massive rapes and enslaved Koreans, much in the full knowledge of the average Japanese citizen as war spoil.

You arguing they were unaware of specific war crimes means nothing because in the larger context the Japanese Citizen understood this was the way of how they waged war and treated those not of their own lineage.

Your sophist assertions and obfuscations will not fly here unchallenged.


48 posted on 08/05/2025 8:57:06 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: Skwor

Claim what you want. Yet you provide no citations, primary references, etc that the average Japanese citizen was aware of this information.

It certainly did not come from Japanese media during WW2, as the military, went to great pains to hide their torture of Allied forces and subjugated peoples, as research of the Rape of Nanking and other war crimes became known.

The Japanese people were told and believed they were a superior people to other Asians and that Westerners had abused and tortured Japanese in years prior. It’s a stretch to claim that this was tacit endorsement of torture.

Please provide a book or reference that buttresses your claim even in the broader sense.


49 posted on 08/05/2025 9:07:48 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Fury

>> can’t argue the point

Ha. You flatter yourself. The only “points” in your spew are NYT/Bluesky “tawking points”.

Personal is all a Bluesky troll like you deserves. It’s all you’re gonna get. Get used to it.


50 posted on 08/05/2025 9:13:35 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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To: Nervous Tick

LOL!

Get to work.


51 posted on 08/05/2025 9:41:00 AM PDT by Fury
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

Great story- how old was he when he passed away?


52 posted on 08/05/2025 9:52:58 AM PDT by God luvs America
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To: Fury

yes, keep up the idea that somehow the catenary of WW2 were helpless uniformed innocent culturally benevolent people.

Literally you are showing your lack of the Imperial Japanese.

Thier very culture was steeped in the abuse of those viewed as foreigners, Japanese Supremacy was not an ideal it was a culture that established near uninhibited abuses of those in the lower castes.

Also, the idea that over 6 million active duty by Aug 1945, just before the end of the war somehow never communicated and talked about the acts, they committed to their families and friends back home is beyond naive.

They knew, not to the man but as a collective they very much knew what was being done and saw it as acceptable as their culture.

Try reading up on all the forced labor camps most of which lead to the death of the enslaved, projects to build Japan infrastructure as its imperialist ambitions grew. Do your own research and learn the truth instead of spouting baseless falsehoods.

Show your proof that the civilian population was not aware and kept completely ignorant of the 10’s of millions of deaths at the hands of their family members in the Imperial Army, do you even hear your own words?


53 posted on 08/05/2025 12:01:58 PM PDT by Skwor
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yes, keep up the idea that somehow the catenary of WW2 were helpless uniformed innocent culturally benevolent people.

Stopped reading after this ignorant sentence.

Never wrote they were “innocent”. Never wrote they were “culturally benevolent”

Good grief, the level of critical thinking and lack of staying on point obliterates your arguments.

Seriously, get some assistance on how to debate issues in a cogent manner. Good luck.

54 posted on 08/05/2025 12:08:08 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Fury

Try again, you are the one attempting to portray the Japanese as ignorant to all the sins of their nation.

Also stop selectively grabbing pieces of my post and creating a straw man. You are arguing that the population was in near complete ignorance of the atrocities their government committed and also the you ignore the culture they had at the time that promoted those behaviors in all elements of their society.

Every-time a point is challenged you switch the goalposts, typical liberal dishonesty, Also you opened up the ad hominem attacks with your first response to me and tried to claim some sort of superior understanding by other posters.

Yes you are indeed intimating they were not accountable and implying had they known it would have been different. My comment was taking your position to it’s logical fallacious end, appears your critical thinking skills are the ones in question.

Please do continue to cognitive cringe.


55 posted on 08/05/2025 4:05:47 PM PDT by Skwor
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To: Skwor

Again, can’t get by the first paragraph with its hyperbole.

Learn how to argue the point. Get to work. Good luck.


56 posted on 08/05/2025 6:16:40 PM PDT by Fury
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