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Disfigured, shamed and forgotten: BBC visits the Korean survivors of the Hiroshima bomb
BBC ^ | Aug 5 | BBC

Posted on 08/05/2025 3:37:00 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: RandFan

“”No-one takes responsibility,” says Shim Jin-tae, an 83-year-old survivor. “Not the country that dropped the bomb. Not the country that failed to protect us. America never apologised. Japan pretends not to know. Korea is no better. They just pass the blame - and we’re left alone.””


Why should America apologize? We gave the Japs every opportunity to surrender before dropping the bomb...


But what weighs more heavily is that the pain didn’t stop with her. Her son Ho-chang, who supports her, was diagnosed with kidney failure and is undergoing dialysis while awaiting a transplant.

“I believe it’s due to radiation exposure, but who can prove it?” Ho-chang Lee says. “It’s hard to verify scientifically - you’d need genetic testing, which is exhausting and expensive.”


She’s 88 which means by my calculations she was eight years old at the time the bomb dropped....if she had her kid at age 23 that means he would’ve been born around 1960....yet somehow he got kidney cancer from the radiation despite being born 15 years after the bomb was dropped?

There was also an American POW facility in Hiroshima at the time the bomb was dropped yet you never here anything about those American GI’s...


21 posted on 08/05/2025 4:52:10 AM PDT by God luvs America
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To: Fury

“Position of ignorance”?
Every damned one of them knew what was going on! Why do you think there were so many Koreans there? They were enslaved and brought to japan to do their dirty work after ‘colonizing’ Korea. The Japanese were running over all their neighboring countries for decades. And ‘who knew’? I could go on for pages.
Give me a break. Your willful ignorance is pathetic.


22 posted on 08/05/2025 4:54:33 AM PDT by Donbue
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To: RandFan
“The atom bomb was no ‘great decision’… It was merely another powerful weapon in the arsenal of righteousness.” – Harry S. Truman, at a Columbia University Seminar, April 28, 1959, New York City.

As quoted in The Buck Stops Here: The 28 Toughest Presidential Decisions and How They Changed History, Thomas J. Craughwell, Edwin Kiester Jr., Quarry Books, 2010, p. 178.

23 posted on 08/05/2025 4:59:45 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (Make Austin Texas Again! )
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To: mewzilla

Well at least they weren’t NAZIS.....I have often wondered at why the Japanese aren’t burdened by world hatred for their acts the way Germans are. Not every German was a Nazi, but every Japanese was a subject of their god emperor and would have gladly willingly committed any act no matter how vile, or die to the last one for him. This is why we were reduced to using the bomb, because many more would have died on each side.


24 posted on 08/05/2025 5:18:50 AM PDT by Mastador1
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To: RandFan
Remember Pearl Harbor

Dawn on a Sunday morning,
Dawn on the wide, blue sea,
Hawaii, isle of sunshine,
Lay so peacefully.
Then from the sky without warning,
The vultures swarmed to attack.
Hiding behind their peace talk,
They stabbed our boys in the back!

25 posted on 08/05/2025 5:21:57 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Skwor

As a virtuous liberal, I think we should not have dropped those two bombs. We should have spared the Japanese from the horrors of the usage of nuclear weapons and instead subjected them to the pleasures of an invasion. Yes, perhaps 20,000,000 of them would have died, not to mention the million or so casualties the Allies would have suffered. And the complete and total devastation of the Japanese homeland. But hey, things happen. And then we could all feel virtuous about how we held back from dropping those two awful weapons.


26 posted on 08/05/2025 5:23:36 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt (Fascist, deplorable, and proud of it!)
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To: God luvs America

My father served during the occupation of Japan with the 108th Quartermaster American Graves Registration Service platoon. He recovered the remains of 7 American and allied POWS from Hiroshima according to the documents I read about his units operations during the occupation of Japan.

His company recovered the remains of thousands of American MIA, KIA and POWS during the occupation only to turn around and have to repeat the grizzly process all over again beginning on June 25th, 1950 in Korea. I estimate that the company he served with and eventually was promoted to commander of processed well over 30 thousands US soldiers remains for repatriation back to their families in the United States. He suffered with PTSD till the day he died from the things he saw.

After my father passed in 1998, an autopsy revealed that cancer had metastasized throughout his abdomen. We believe it was from KIA recovery operations in and around Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The good lord spared my father the suffering from cancer and took him with sudden heart failure. He would be 110 years old this year


27 posted on 08/05/2025 5:26:17 AM PDT by lurked_for_a_decade (Imagination is more important than knowledge! ( e_uid == 0 ) != ( e_uid = 0 ). I Read kernel code.)
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To: RandFan

#FAFO. Don’t attack the U.S. and don’t get nuked. Don’t start nothin’, won’t be nothin’!


28 posted on 08/05/2025 5:28:06 AM PDT by montag813
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The good lord spared my father the suffering from cancer and took him with sudden heart failure. He would be 110 years old this year

May God bless his soul. Incredible man and unbelievable service to the American people.

29 posted on 08/05/2025 5:29:59 AM PDT by montag813
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Odds are, without the bombs, at least half of Japan would have been occupied by the Soviets, and a Korea-like Civil War would have been inevitable, and we would have been involved in it.


30 posted on 08/05/2025 5:34:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FLT-bird
Those nuclear bombs - as horrific as they were - saved many many lives.

Ditto that. That is the bottom line. Well said.

31 posted on 08/05/2025 6:29:53 AM PDT by Ditto
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Or when I wonder if the Japanese knew or suspected we didn't have a third nuke available,

From what I have read, after the two that were dropped on Japan, we did have one more available in August of 45. It was still in the US. But, more could have been made in a relatively short time.

32 posted on 08/05/2025 6:36:08 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

Correct. Declassified documents regarding the production timelines showed that by November, 1945, the US could produce two bombs per month.


33 posted on 08/05/2025 6:40:28 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt (Fascist, deplorable, and proud of it!)
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To: Skwor

The atomic bombs saved millions of lives.


34 posted on 08/05/2025 6:40:44 AM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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To: Fury

Just stop, they were deep into Emperor worship and as adults are responsible, they knew their fellow sons and fathers as soldiers and information was not a complete vacuum. Your logic is the same weak excuse used by NAZIs and German citizens for lack of accountability.

The culture absolutely was bitterly xenophobic and a supremist caste system enforced to its core. Culture matters and theirs enabled those atrocities. Take your liberal bedwetting apologetics elsewhere.

The only ignorance was yours assuming I am not informed of that Japanese period historically and culturally.


35 posted on 08/05/2025 7:00:12 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: mewzilla

The BOMB was designed with Germany in mind, the Kruts surrendered before we could use it on them. Iy’s good to read history before you comment


36 posted on 08/05/2025 7:00:51 AM PDT by Robe
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To: dfwgator
Odds are, without the bombs, at least half of Japan would have been occupied by the Soviets
Yep: at least in terms of the timing, the A-bombs were about the Soviets as much as the cost of a potential invasion of Japan itself.

At Yalta, FDR gave away the Kuril islands to the Soviets, but they also wanted Kokkaido, the northernmost mainland Japanese island. A week after the Nagasaki bombing Truman had to reassert that no Japanese main islands would be taken by the Soviets, who had invaded Manchuria on August 9 (mere hours before the Nagasaki bomb). It is certain that without the A-bombs forcing the Japanese surrender to MacArthur, the Soviets would definitely have invaded Kokkaido.

On July 24 at Potsdam, Truman confirmed to Stalin that we had the bomb ready. The next day, Truman signed the order to drop the bombs, with a go-date of August 3. Soviet positions above Manchuria were already in place and ready by early August, and we not only knew it but helped the Soviets prepare it. But the Soviet plan was for an August 15 declaration of war and invasion. However, the Hiroshima bomb caught them by surprise, and Stalin launched the attack right away.

The timing of the Nagasaki bomb was dictated by logistics and weather, not by the Soviet declaration. The Japanese surrender definitely was in response to both.
37 posted on 08/05/2025 7:26:50 AM PDT by nicollo (Trump beat the cheat! )
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To: FLT-bird
Those nuclear bombs - as horrific as they were - saved many many lives.
The nuclear attack on Japan not only spared American and Japanese lives, it not only halted a Soviet invasion of Japan, but it saved an uncountable number of future lives by removing the incentive to be the first to use nuclear weapons later.
38 posted on 08/05/2025 7:29:59 AM PDT by nicollo (Trump beat the cheat! )
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To: RandFan
At 08:15 on August 6, 1945, as a nuclear bomb was falling like a stone through the skies over Hiroshima,

The Japanese war lords (and the Emperor) should have surrendered long before this.

39 posted on 08/05/2025 7:40:37 AM PDT by libertylover (The HBM (Has Been Media) is almost all AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: RandFan; FLT-bird

“”””That’s an interesting historical context you don’t hear often in these articles.””””

You have those figures in post 11, and there are many more figures.

“hundreds of thousands of prisoners of war and civilian internees were also scheduled to be executed by the Japanese. Beginning in the summer of 1944, Japanese leaders issued a series of directives to prison camp commandants that all prisoners were to be “liquidated” when Allied troops approached the camps.”

Invading Japan
“Depending on the scope and context, casualty estimates for American forces ranged from 220,000 to several million, and estimates of Japanese military and civilian casualties ran from the millions to the tens of millions. “

Many of us here had fathers involved in this, and after years of Japanese horrors and the murder of millions and millions of civilians and POWs while laughing and torturing, the rest of the world was in no mood to die trying to be nice to the Japs.


40 posted on 08/05/2025 7:40:46 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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