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To: MtnClimber

Add to all that the profundity of a complex life-form like ours, or anything in the animal kingdom, or even among the plants…. consciousness, the five senses, emotions, etc.. none of this life we have is a “given”, even on a perfectly suitable planet - even over sufficient number of billions of years.

Just take vision for example. That one sense alone boggles the mind - (certainly my mind) it feels like a miracle to me the way we can simply ‘see’ - not just enough to navigate and survive - but enough to witness the incredible beauty of nature.

I’m not talking about a creator - because that wouldn’t really answer any of these questions (it would just raise more IMHO- like, why would a creator only populate one planet? - not to mention what created the creator?)

But I AM talking about something “supernatural” - in other words - I’m talking about how infinitely small is our scientific grasp of how life and the universe came about, and what comprises it. The limits of our consciousness being what they are, it stands to reason that the explanations for the big questions lie well beyond the reach of our five senses, and thus outside the constructs of time and space which our five senses project.

It almost seems silly for us to expect an answer - that’s how little we know.


21 posted on 07/22/2025 6:44:21 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: enumerated

“The limits of our consciousness being what they are, it stands to reason that the explanations for the big questions lie well beyond the reach of our five senses, and thus outside the constructs of time and space which our five senses project.

It almost seems silly for us to expect an answer - that’s how little we know.”

Well said. We have no sense of our limitations. We think we are the apex of existence. But I often think that in the great scheme of things we may be no more than what an amoeba is to us.

Because of its physical, sensual, conscious and intellectual limitations an amoeba has no idea of our human existence. The world we see and experience is totally unfathomable to an amoebe. All the “objects” that we perceive through our senses and consciousness, trees, rocks, mountains, people etc, etc, don’t exist to an amoeba.

So that raises the question. What if we are like an amoeba that exist in a much more complex world with beings and objects that our senses and consciousness and intellect are unable to grasp? A world where they’re aware of us and can impact us, like we can an amoeba, but we are totally oblivious of their existence, like an amoeba is oblivious of ours.


48 posted on 07/22/2025 9:00:51 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
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