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To: bitt
I remember posting this on December 4, 2017:


You have to remember that liberals became radicalized in 2000 when voters rejected "Bill Clinton’s Third Term."

In 2004, the "collusion" excuse was called "swiftboating" to explain how John Kerry lost a sure thing.

In 2008, the Obama regime that took over was rabidly anti-American, and sought to dismantle all pillars of American law and order, starting with Black Panther voter intimidation in Philadelphia, to make sure that 2000 and 2004 never happened again. 2012 unleashed a scorched-Earth policy of no looking back to retaliate for the 2010 wave election that took the House away from Obama.

They counted on Hillary Clinton winning to keep their treason hidden from the public, but failed. Now that they are "all in," they are like cornered animals with nothing left to lose.


January 21, 2018: Former US Attorney: IG Report Shows McCabe Made FBI Agents Fabricate Evidence – Implicates Obama’s Senior DOJ Officials


then there’s going to be a federal grand jury to investigate the Obama administration’s senior Department of Justice officials and the senior members of the FBI.

Anybody with any sense has to see where this ends up.

We either have a rogue cabinet, in it's entirety (of which Justice is the second to be outed after Treasury/IRS), that is acting unconstitutionally without the knowledge of the President -- making Obama an incompetent stooge or useful idiot for others; or we have a top-down directive, straight from the Oval Office, to use the tools of government to crush the opposition and secure power for generations.


Let's not kid ourselves, the Obama Spying Scandal is the biggest scandal in the history of the USA. The weaponizing of the IC, FBI, Justice Department came from Obama. I suspect Clapper and Brennan are major players working with Obama. They had the HAMMER computer system. It's my guess it started on day one of his administration.

Do you think that America is ready to accept a finding like this, if it means draining the swamp in one fell swoop? Do you think a majority in Congress would be willing to let this flow to its natural conclusions, if it means that some will get to stay viable for the future?

And finally, do you think -- given Obama's childhood -- that we might actually see a former President live the rest of his life in exile in a non-extradition country like Indonesia, Bahrain, or Kuwait?


This sort of corruption is the result of many decades of cover-ups and looking the other way, all for the “greater good” (of the FBI).

I would add... based on the convenient, but unproven, excuse that the cover-ups were necessary to protect people's confidence in government and avoid riots in "the street" should popular figures be seen as being taken out.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, so to speak, to justify their own corruption for the greater good of stability in government. However, those on the short-end of that stability have had enough.


Still, the point is that the top could have intervened to stop it, if: 1) the top were in the loop, and 2) the top was appalled by the rogue behavior.

So, to assume that the top did not approve and to still protect the top, one has to assume that the top was duped, was lied to, was incompetent as a manager to not know what direct reports were doing in such visible roles.

Therefore, the only choices to judge Obama are that he either was in the know and supported it, or he was played the fool and sat over a rogue destructive administration.

Neither are legacies that Obama wants.


January 23, 2018: The FISA Abuse Memo Unveiled; What Exactly Is In the Memo, According to Intel Insiders


That's because eight years ago, the government was still filled by people loyal to the United States.

When someone "who spent part if his youth in a Madrasa and spent his early adulthood with domestic terrorist" takes over the White House, this is what he does as a natural inclination, and he finds others with a similar inclination to fill out his administration.


tell me how the system of checks and balances gets changed so that a domestic counter-intelligence operation can work unchecked against the interest of the American people.

I believe it started in the Clinton administration with three specific events and some ancillary incidents:

  1. Mass firing all 93 US Attorneys in one day and replacing them with Clinton appointees. Previous Presidents fired selected US Attorneys over a period of time.

  2. The "Gorelick Wall." Jamie Gorelick, then the Deputy Attorney General under Janet Reno, established a policy forbidding the sharing of intelligence between the CIA, FBI, and NSA. In hindsight, the belief is that she was protecting Bill Clinton's campaign fundraising abuses, but the unintended consequence is that the intelligence agencies missed the evidence of the 9/11 plot.

  3. TWA 800. Occurring in July 1996 (in the heart of the Clinton reelection campaign), the FBI was actively investigating a missile strike theory. Several days into the investigation the CIA took over investigation, discarded hundreds of eye-witness accounts, and create an implausible "zoom climb" video to explain a center fuel tank explosion.

  4. 700 FBI files. Disavowed White House aide Craig Livingstone acquired confidential FBI files on most "players" in Washington, which the Clinton's allegedly used as "leverage" in policy negotiations.

  5. Related attempts to coordinate the mining of raw intelligence, such as "Able Danger," were shut down by Gorelick's wall. There were claims that Able Danger discovered the Mohamed Atta terrorist cell a year before the 9/11 attack, but key government officials changed their stories during the 9/11 Commission study.

  6. "Open" FBI Investigations. Attorney General Janet Reno never closed any FBI investigations. By keeping them open, this allowed her to decline to comment on "ongoing investigations," of which there were many in the Clinton administration. This was an early politicization of the FBI as a tool to protect the incumbent administration.

  7. Late in the Clinton administration, an eavesdropping system named "Echelon" was changed from military/diplomatic espionage by a new FBI system called "Carnivore" to sniff general international TCP/IP communications channels. Not limited to known suspected targets, this system monitored all traffic for specic keywords whether or not an American citizen was involved in the communication.

The Clintons learned by experience that, no matter how egregious the crime or lie, repeated denial is all it takes in Washington to skirt the consequences (Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones excepting, although Clinton's penalties were minor).

Fast forward to 2000 and the Bush-Gore election. Here, we see parallels with the Trump-Clinton election:

The 2000 election is probably the flash point for when we see the radicalization of the MSM. The Clinton administration held up Presidential transition funds while Gore's challenge worked its way through the Florida courts. The MSM echoed the "selected, not elected" meme despite their own post-election reviews of Florida ballots showing that, no matter how many different ways they counted the votes, Bush still won Florida. The MSM never mentioned that if Gore had only won his or Clinton's home states, Florida would have been moot. The MSM ridiculed anyone who repeated the news that the outgoing Clinton staff trashed the White House when they left. The MSM said that Bush was a "dry drunk." The MSM said that Bush was dumb. The MSM resented that Bush went to bed early, rose early, and vacationed in Crawford, TX.

Eight months into Bush's first term, 9/11 happened. Bush emerged as a popular wartime leader (remember his speech at the rubble with the bullhorn?), and Democrats were now forced to fast-track the confirmations of Bush's remaining Cabinet nominees. When the United States ultimately invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, the MSM grudgingly went along as "embedded journalists," to provide "context" to the "narrative" that would follow. Our intelligence agencies were deeply focused on wartime surveillance and ultimately the hunt for Saddam Hussein, and likely didn't have the bandwidth to focus on internal domestic spying on political opponents yet (Watergate still resonated).

Two interesting incidents resulted from the Iraq War:

  1. Blaming the intelligence agencies for not finding WMD in Iraq, saying that they misinterpreted the data. Democrats alleged that Bush ordered the falsification of intelligence in order to manipulate Democrats into voting for the war effort (Ted Kennedy: "Week after week after week he told lie after lie after lie..."). The "intelligence community," while existing as a formal body since 1981, was now coined as an opposition force.

  2. The outing of Valeria Plame as a CIA agent. Although Plame was known in Washington DC as a CIA analyst, Democrats ginned up a huge scandal to attack the Bush administration, but ended up only jailing Vice-President Dick Cheney's Chief-of-Staff Scooter Libby, despite knowing that Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage was the leaker. This was also said to turn the "intelligence community" against Republicans.

Fast forward to the Bush-Kerry election of 2004. The MSM, in the form of Dan Rather, used forged military documents to accuse President Bush of avoiding deployment to Vietnam. The MSM mocked former John Kerry Swift-Boat crew members who spoke against Kerry's character as an officer in Vietnam. The MSM coined the word "swift-boating" to mean attacking a Democrat with false accusations. Note that Bush was not "swift-boated by Rather, but instead, the MSM claimed that the supporting documents were "fake but accurate." The MSM showed their willingness to take the side of Democrats to cover up anything harmful to their side.

Fast forward to the 2008 election between McCain-Obama. The MSM imputes all sorts of optimism onto Barack Obama, while simultaneously attacking Sarah Palin as an uneducated hick from Alaska. Once Obama takes office, the MSM either downplays, covers up, or supports the following:

There is more, but you can see how the Obama administration slowly, systematically, politicized each federal department to serve liberal Democrat interests. The counter-intelligence agencies became normalized to work for the attainment of the liberal agenda above all else. The extent of the abuses was not known outside the halls of the various departments, and it was expected to remain unspoken after Hillary Clinton took over. The MSM was not interested in harming fellow liberals, and either looked the other way or actively participated in coordinating the cover-up (remember JournoList?).

These agencies are now being weaponized against Donald Trump in a last-ditch effort at self-survival.

I hope this answers your question.


February 7, 2018: New FBI Texts Reveal Obama Asked for Updates on Clinton Investigation After Guaranteeing He’s Staying Out of Hillary Email Server Probe>


The date of the text was before the election, so there shouldn't have been a Russia collusion investigation yet; that was concocted only after Trump won the election two months later.

If I were to guess, I'd think Obama wanted an update on the Trump campaign surveillance.


I don't think it was a collusion investigation at the time, I think it was a planned spying on the operations of the Trump campaign via purposeful unmasking of anticipated incidental surveillance of known Russians.

Obama only called it collusion after Trump won the election in order to manufacture a crime to justify the spying in anticipation of being discovered by the incoming administration.

All the evidence at the time suggests that Putin would have preferred Clinton because she was already giving Russia whatever they want, so investigating Russian collusion to aid Trump would not have made sense.


April 16, 2018: Comey ‘Deeply’ Respects Obama—Who Denied Right to Life of Born Babies—Thinks Trump ‘Morally Unfit’


When Obama, who Comey believes has a “higher loyalty to the values I care a lot about,”

Apparently so, since Obama's team admitted to lying to the American people about Obamacare in order to get it passed.

Comey was willing to lie about the crimes of Hillary Clinton in order to get her elected, and then lie about no crimes committed by Trump in order to get him thrown out.


April 20, 2018: Comey’s Memos Indicate Dossier Briefing Of Trump Was A Setup


Comey's Memos Indicate Dossier Briefing Of Trump Was A Setup

Headline should have read:

Comey's Memos Indicate Dossier Briefing Of Trump Was A Setup By Obama Director Of National Intelligence James Clapper


My trip down Memory Lane.

-PJ

24 posted on 07/20/2025 2:12:16 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too
Stellar post you have the deep states number:

Blaming the intelligence agencies for not finding WMD in Iraq, saying that they misinterpreted the data. Democrats alleged that Bush ordered the falsification of intelligence in order to manipulate Democrats into voting for the war effort (Ted Kennedy: "Week after week after week he told lie after lie after lie..."). The "intelligence community," while existing as a formal body since 1981, was now coined as an opposition force.

cia,fbi,others once weaponized against the country did and still do enormous damage.

Great job here.

44 posted on 07/20/2025 4:29:57 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Home of the Free Because of the Brave!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY:UNTIL ITS NOT!!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
BTTT

64 posted on 07/20/2025 6:15:31 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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