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Windows 10’s end of life looms. A security pro dissects your only options
PCWorld ^ | July 17,2025 | Alaina Yee

Posted on 07/18/2025 1:35:20 PM PDT by fireman15

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101 posted on 07/19/2025 4:17:07 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: plain talk

I wouldn’t discourage you from purchasing a new PC with Windows 11. I purchased a new Windows 11 Ryzen based mini-pc a couple months ago for $129 on sale at Amazon and it is absolutely amazing. Of course, I am someone who never stops tinkering so by the time that I ended up upgrading the memory, upgrading the wifi & bluetooth module and upgrading the storage I have more into it than if I would have just purchased a more expensive unit. This one has twice the storage, and twice the memory for $30 more if you use the coupon. That is $159 for a very capable Windows 11 mini-computer.

https://www.amazon.com/MAGICNUC-AS1-Computers-Graphics-3%C3%97USB3-2/dp/B0FCFQDPKK

Of course, my best advice for purchasing a new computer is to wait until one you like at Costco goes on sale. I have a gaming laptop with one of the latest Intel processors and a NVidia GPU but I am a big fan of Ryzen based computers. They are the best value by far... It would be hard to go wrong with this one from Costco.

https://www.costco.com/acer-aspire-3-156-touchscreen-laptop-—amd-ryzen-5-7520u-—fhd-1920x1080-—windows-11.product.4000251732.html


102 posted on 07/19/2025 5:10:00 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: plain talk

At Costco you get a two-year warranty and if you decide you don’t think the laptop’s color matches your drapes you can take it back 3 months later with no questions asked.


103 posted on 07/19/2025 5:15:15 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: Political Junkie Too
What about Tiny 11, a slimmed-down Windows 11 24H2 version?

Tiny 11 is not supported by Microsoft.

104 posted on 07/20/2025 7:55:25 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord

I upgraded to LINUX MINT. It also runs many windows programs with WINE software or Crossover. I use Libre Office software for word processing, spreadsheet, presentations and draw. It works great on older machines without the windows bloatware taking 15 minutes to load software. YMMV. IMHO.


105 posted on 07/20/2025 8:02:38 AM PDT by Pol-92064 (tax)
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To: Pol-92064
I upgraded to LINUX MINT.

RE: Post 53. I considered Mint for my old Win10 PC but found setting up and maintaining Linux was tedious "for me". Windows provides me convenience and ease of use. Finding a great deal on a Win11 laptop is what sold me on Win11.

106 posted on 07/20/2025 8:19:51 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: fireman15

The best thing people can do is upgrade to Linux


107 posted on 07/20/2025 1:16:21 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: dayglored

i love that diskette image...
Disk 1 of 7079 indeed!LoL!


108 posted on 07/20/2025 1:18:01 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: JesusIsLord

Yeah, I’m on a fixed income and can’t afford to plonk down $1k+ on a new desktop computer. I get a deal for cheap ISP service @ $30 mo. and use consumer cellular @ $25 mo. for my telephone service.
Honestly when I run Win10 on my i3 2 core PC it takes 15 minutes to load and I have to click and wait a minute when I open an app. Honestly it reminds me of my C64 and disk drive 40 years ago. :-)


109 posted on 07/20/2025 2:06:56 PM PDT by Pol-92064 (tax)
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To: zeugma
> i love that diskette image... Disk 1 of 7079 indeed!LoL!

It's an oldie but goodie, and I forget where I stole it from, nearly a decade ago. The original was Windows 10, so when Win11 came out I touched it up in two places to say "11". I didn't touch the copyright, so that still says "...-2015".

So by now it's probably well over 7079!

110 posted on 07/20/2025 2:16:55 PM PDT by dayglored (This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it. Psalms 118:24)
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To: fireman15
Windows 11 Ryzen based mini-pc a couple months ago for $129 on sale at Amazon and it is absolutely amazing.

I'm not a gamer. Edge Browser, Open Office and Thunderbird are what I run 95% of the time. I recently bought an out-of-box Ryzen based laptop from BestBuy - $120. Performance is far better than my old Win10 laptop. I make use of a 150GB external storage device previously used on my Win10 machine as my Win11 'Documents' library.

111 posted on 07/20/2025 4:30:44 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: zeugma
The best thing people can do is upgrade to Linux.

I use various flavors of Linux every day in my little hobbyist style "home lab". I have a great NAS setup that uses Debian. I have an Apache2 Webserver running in Ubuntu Server. I have various niceties running in CasaOS inside Xubuntu Minimal. My favorite distribution is Ubuntu Studio and I could go on. Every machine I own has some form of Linux available on it either in a multiple boot setup, a virtual machine, or on “To-Go” NVME drives.

But there are many very valid reasons why there are still approximately a Billion machines running Windows 10. A big part of it is because the vast majority of people have chosen to use Windows machines since it was first introduced 40 years ago. I have a bunch of hardware and software designed for Windows 10 that I have no intention of trashing or retiring because Microsoft and a bunch of hardware manufacturers and software developers want to extract every last dime from my wallet.

“For desktop computers and laptops, Microsoft Windows has 71%, followed by Apple's macOS at 16%, unknown operating systems at 8%, desktop Linux at 4%, then Google's ChromeOS at 2%.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

Like it or not these are the numbers quoted pretty much everywhere. Approximately 1 in 25 people who use desktop computers and laptops choose Linux. The other 24 out of 25 people choose not to use Linux. Why? Their reasons vary.

I started this thread to let people here who are Windows 10 users who for whatever reasons do not want to migrate to Windows 11, or switch to Linux or Apple that there currently is an economical solution that will allow them to keep their current setup. This solution will probably until their computer is on its last legs. Because errors in their operating system will be detected and corrected, all their old updates will be replaced with fresh ones, and their core OS will be replaced... most machines will run slightly faster and likely a little more reliably than they are with their current setup.

Is this a good solution for everyone? No, most people should probably spend the money for new hardware and software and migrate to Windows 11. Some of us just do not appreciate having our arms twisted and manipulated into this type of action. Microsoft is a bad actor for trying to encourage people to send perfectly good hardware to a landfill. If instead of helping Windows 10 users stick with what has been working for them for a lot of years... you want to chastise them and try to shame them into switching to an operating system that may or may not eventually work out for them... Be my guest!

112 posted on 07/20/2025 5:18:41 PM PDT by fireman15
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