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To: marron

It seems like Trump doesn’t trust the presumption of innocence or something.


159 posted on 07/16/2025 9:21:33 AM PDT by PoeToaster
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To: PoeToaster

“It seems like Trump doesn’t trust the presumption of innocence or something.”

Just the opposite.

What he also knows is that many idiots here will presume guilty.


162 posted on 07/16/2025 9:23:14 AM PDT by TexasGator (1i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: PoeToaster
It seems like Trump doesn’t trust the presumption of innocence or something.

The presumption of innocence has nothing to do with this.

That presumption is a legal presumption applicable to the criminal process only. It has nothing to do with public opinion, or the damage or loss to reputation.

For example, consider all the defamation lawsuits, including those urging Trump to file one against AOC. If reputation was truly protected by the legal presumption of innocence, there would never be any defamation lawsuits because nobody's reputation would ever be damaged until a criminal jury found someone guilty.

That clearly isn't the case, and reputations are destroyed based on rumor and innuendo all the time. The problem here is compounded because releasing the documents while protecting all information about the accusers guarantees that the accused will never have the opportunity in a court to clear their name.

The accusers all have had an opportunity to bring a civil lawsuit against whichever individuals other than Epstein they may claim abused them. Over 100 chose to bring such claims against Epstein himself. But to date, only one woman has done so against anyone else, and that was the woman who filed a lawsuit against Prince Andrew.

171 posted on 07/16/2025 9:32:02 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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