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To: marcusmaximus
I've said all along that Trump's options are identical to what Biden's were - the consequences of continually feeding the beast or the consequences of walking away.

Contrary to his campaign rhetoric, Trump after promising the latter, has opted for the former, which mimics Biden and the deep state. Yeah, some of the details are tweaked, but mostly the same failed strategy of sanctions and sending perpetual funds and arms to Ukraine. "Oh but Europe is doing it now." lol...nope.

Sadly there has been no articulation or vision of what victory looks like - from anyone. FReepers, Trump, neocons, Lindsey, the yellow British press.... nobody. Not a single picture painted of how this ends in a way that satisfies those advocating the MESS they've made.

Yeah Trump says he wants Vlad to "negotiate," but Vald's terms have been clear; no NATO on Russia's border in a disarmed Ukraine. This is the entire reason why we're here. Ukraine was intended as a buffer since it's creation in 1991. Five-eyes posing as Blackrock contractors won't fool anyone.

Russia simply moved its border a few ticks to the left and nobody knows how to undo it, despite NATO spending multiple times Russia's total military budget.

"Oh but look, Russia economy is bad, potatoes and eggs are high" is not a plan and will not cause Russian troops to pull back off their new borders.

12 posted on 07/15/2025 9:11:44 AM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: AAABEST

At core, the essential problem is the west’s failure to understand how important a completely neutral Ukraine is to Russia.


14 posted on 07/15/2025 9:19:20 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: AAABEST

Nothing anyone can do about it other than sit back and watch the show.

In the end, it was all up to Melania and her lip reading. LOL


28 posted on 07/15/2025 11:27:00 AM PDT by dforest
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