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·Islands that Aren't Islands
0:00·There's been a lot of rain here in the UK recently,
0:03·so much so that land that has been drained and reclaimed for centuries is, all of a sudden,
0:08·under the risk of turning back into the sea. For example, a sea level rise of only a few
0:13·meters reveals the now-drained marshland of the Fens in eastern England, and the extinct
0:18·sea at Pevensey in southern England can, as of right now, be seen on flood warning maps [10].
0:24·According to the historian Michael Hislop, the natural harbour first conquered by William of
0:28·Normandy has turned into fields, and the castle that once guarded an important coast is just,
0:32·in the middle of a bunch of land now [1][2]. But these aren't what this video is about.
0:38·Instead, all of this had me thinking about something very peculiar I'd seen
0:42·a little while ago...
·Ynys, Ynys, Ynys
0:50·This is a hill in the valley of Glaslyn, in Wales. Most hills here in Wales follow
0:54·a pretty normal naming scheme, usually containing one of the many words for hill:
0:57·bryn, pen, allt, carn, mynydd and so on.
1:02·Except for this one. This one is called Ynys Hir. "Long Island". No mention of a hill at all.
1:11·But alright, surely it's just a metaphor. Does it stick out like an island in the
1:16·middle of the field? Well... yes, but nowhere else in Wales is named like that at all,
1:22·and the place is filled with hills. In fact, with very, very few exceptions,
1:28·the word "ynys" in Welsh, from the Latin "insula", exclusively applies to what you'd expect:
1:32·islands. Actual islands, in the sea. But what's interesting about Ynys Hir,
1:38·is that it's not alone. In fact, the majority of those very few exceptions occur right here,
1:44·in the middle of the valley of Glaslyn, where nearly every single prominent hill is called
1:50·an island. It is unlike, literally, anywhere else in the entire country.
1:57·You don't have to remember any of these names, but from Ynys Hir, we have the nearby
2:01·Ynys Cerrig Duon, and Ynys Galch. We also have Ynys Ceiliog, Ynys y Gwely, Hir Ynys, and Ynys
2:08·Ifan. Finally these names also occur quite a bit inland, as north of here we can find Ynys Ferlas,
2:14·Ynys Fach, and finally the largest of these "islands", Ynys Fawr, alongside the last hill,
2:20·Bwlch Glas, who just had to be different.
2:25·As I said, apart from this collection of hills, some the only "islands" I could find that aren't actually islands seem to
2:31·be a peninsula in south-west Wales, a village named Llanynys in North Wales,
2:35·and another called Ynysybwl in South Wales. So, what's going on? Why, in this obscure
2:41·rural valley in north-west Wales, do we have an archipelago surrounded
2:44·by a sea of grass, instead of water?
·Traeth Mawr
2:54·The first thought that came to mind was, well, how long has this been grass? Were these once proper islands?
3:02·Looking on the website floodmap.net, I decided to see what would happen if you raised the sea
3:06·level by a few meters, as those floods had revealed the old sea at Pevensey earlier,
3:10·and while most of Wales wasn't affected by an otherwise Netherlands-destroying 5-meter rise,
3:15·one area in particular looked very different. The Glaslyn valley, with its collection of inland
3:22·islands, suddenly became completely submerged. What had happened here?
3:30·Looking at an old map from 1839, I couldn't spot anything different. The Glaslyn River
3:34·still just ran through solid ground, the nearby town of Porthmadog was still there,
3:38·and these "islands" were still just hills. But by looking at a map made only 4 decades
3:43·prior, a very different picture emerged. Because all of a sudden, two towns in the area,
3:49·Porthmadog and Tremadog, aren't there. In fact the entire valley isn't there,
3:55·instead being replaced by nearly 4 miles of a brand-new gulf, or inlet, labelled Traeth Mawr.
4:02·I had never seen this before, and 13 miles of coastline disappearing is a
4:06·pretty conspicuous thing. So I wasn't at all surprised to learn that this had actually been
4:10·staring at me in the face for years. On any map I could find produced prior
4:14·to the 1800s, this sea, Traeth Mawr, was right there. Some authors made it pretty prominent too,
4:20·on the Cambriae Typus, the earliest known map of just Wales [3], the author shows
4:25·this lost stretch of coast extending about halfway towards the other side of the ocean.
4:29·A painting from 1834 of Traeth Mawr, one that I had used in my videos several times,
4:34·seemed to just show a load of sand, but another painting from 1818 of the same location,
4:39·which is also a picture I've shown several times, seemed to instead depict quite a bit of water,
4:44·extending deep into the mountains. Water that was deep enough to allow boats on
4:48·it [8], and some pretty sizable ones too, but again today nothing is left of this.
4:53·Well... almost nothing, but we'll come to that in a second.
4:57·Miles of water were present in this medieval map, and indeed in maps all the way up to 1795,
5:02·dozens of them, many of which I had been looking at for years,
5:05·so what had happened to this missing sea?
·How to Remove 13 Miles of Coastline (100% Effective!)
5:13·The answer lies, as it often does, with man.
5:17·Well, with one man to be exact: William Madocks.
5:23·According to the historian David Thomas, Madocks was a wealthy man with family from Denbighshire, in North Wales [9].
5:29·With his inheritance, he had bought an estate on what would have been the shores of this
5:32·inlet [9], and he set about a tremendous task. The Dictionary of Welsh Biography does not call
5:38·him an industrialist for nothing [9], and true to his surname, William Madocks envisioned
5:43·turning what was then the small port towns of Borth-y-gest and Aberglaslyn [8] into a
5:47·proper dock that could serve the nearby slate mines [9]. This new dock was called Porthmadoc,
5:52·humbly named after him, but how he achieved this is what we're really interested in.
5:58·According to D. Thomas, beginning from the age of 25, William Madocks began to enclose,
6:02·and drain, thousands of acres of this missing medieval sea, starting from around his estate,
6:08·where the town of Tremadog, also named after him, sits today, aiming
6:11·eventually to encompass the entire gulf [9]. By 1811, this process began to truly be underway,
6:18·as with the permission of the British Parliament, Madocks created a contraption across the mouth
6:22·of the Glaslyn with a very disappointingly boring name: a long ridge of rocks, road,
6:27·and rail known as "the cob" [5][4]. This wall severely limited how far the
6:34·tide could travel in [5], the biologist P. M. Rhind notes that even in high tide the
6:38·sea water is mostly kept out today [4], and all of this allowed for Madocks to
6:42·completely change the landscape of this valley. According to G. Robinson, this sea, Traeth Mawr,
6:47·likely looked a lot like the estuary to its south, the Mawddach [6], and this can
6:51·be seen here in that painting made only a few years after construction of the cob had
6:54·started. But soon this would not be the case. I couldn't find a source for when the draining
7:00·of this sea had been completed, so we can't know for certain when these islands no longer
7:04·became islands, but by 1821 the construction of Porthmadog was underway [9], and in this
7:09·map from 1833, the Glaslyn is shown carving its way through a field, rather than emptying out
7:14·into a sea nearly 4 miles to its north [6]. Our missing medieval water wasn't lost to
7:19·a natural cause, it didn't vanish out of thin air, it was drained.
7:25·These islands became no longer islands, entirely due to man-made causes.
·William Madocks
7:36·When I first started to go into this, I expected to find William Madocks as a sort
7:39·of Lorax-ian bad guy, you know? Draining an entire gulf for a new shopping centre,
7:44·or a 24-lane motorway, or a thneed factory, but no, he doesn't really fit that bill.
7:51·In the words of David Thomas, Madocks was a "pronounced Radical", and a "supporter
7:56·of Parliamentary reform". Not to mention, what was once the waters and sands of Traeth Mawr are farms
8:02·today. There's a salty marsh towards the north of the cob, which is apparently a very rare habitat
8:07·in the UK [4], but the rest are just fields. Interestingly, this wasn't even Madock's original
8:13·his idea, he had read about the plans of another man, John Wynn, who had the same idea in 1625, but
8:19·for whatever reason never went through with it.
8:24·This photo on the Wikimedia Commons by Christine Johnstone calls the south-west of Tremadog a "sea of grass", and that is an excellent pun,
8:32·because not only was it an actual sea only 200 years ago [5][4], but even today it is still,
8:37·in a way, a sea. Filled with almost a dozen islands that aren't actually islands anymore.
8:44·What was once a large outcropping in the middle of the water, large enough for its name to mean "big,
8:48·or great island", is now just a hill, and a small one, completely dwarfed by its surroundings,
8:55·but its name preserves the fact that this valley, these fields, are not natural.
9:02·There are several examples of islands that aren't properly islands here in Wales, to the south,
9:07·by the river Dyfi we have places like Ynyslas, Ynys Tachwedd, and Ynys-Hir,
9:11·all enclosed within these sandbanks, but according to the historian G. Robinsion, sediment deposits
9:17·have changed the coastline of west Wales quite a bit [7], and I imagine that this is how
9:21·places like these lost their island status. But Traeth Mawr sticks out, not only for its
9:28·abundance of demoted islands, but for the reasons it got that way. This sea was drained ultimately,
9:35·by an industrialist, envisioning a port with a railway he never got to
9:38·see complete [9], all made for money, of which he died without, having left the country broke,
9:44·for Paris, where he passed in 1828 [9]. Traeth Mawr didn't need to be drained,
9:51·but it doesn't seem like Madocks did it out of a need to crush wildlife in the name of progress. He
9:57·looked up to figures like Alexander the Great [9], but while he may have conquered Persia,
10:01·Madocks also made his mark on the map, literally. So while yes, Traeth Mawr did not need to go,
10:09·at least Madock's dream wasn't to turn it into a wasteland, at least this sea of grass,
10:14·with its islands that aren't islands, is still there, and it didn't get
10:17·turned into a 4000-acre car park.
10:21·I don't know, though, I still wish I could have seen those sands.
10:35·Thank you very much for watching.
10:37·And thank you all for 100,000 subscribers!
10:41·My next goal will be to reach 4.7 billion in the next four seconds...
10:50·...ok-ok, so we didn't quite that one, but it's ok, we can try again later.

1 posted on 07/11/2025 9:08:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

You are batting 1.000 right now!


3 posted on 07/11/2025 9:20:50 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (Conan the Sailing Librarian)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting.


4 posted on 07/12/2025 4:02:36 AM PDT by fso301
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