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Damned if you do and damned if you don’t - seems that so
many studies contradict each other, it’s all just maddening!

All of my heart, stress, health tests always came out with
very good numbers, except for ‘high blood pressure’ similarly
a co-worker had all great numbers except for cholesterol.

Then I read somewhere recently (no I didn’t save it - sorry)
that ‘science’ lowered the numbers rather arbitrarily iirc.

So I asked Grok to get better background info to share and
lo and behold if you have a healthy heart and no history
of heart attacks/disease then likely no need to worry nor
take a prescription.

Read my next post if you have the time and see if you agree per Grok...

Per Grok (sorry, Grok messes up the formatting) ... Yes, the thresholds for acceptable cholesterol and blood pressure levels have been lowered over time, driven by evolving scientific evidence, clinical studies, and shifts in medical guidelines. Below, I’ll outline the key scientific basis for these changes, focusing on major studies and guideline updates.Cholesterol ThresholdsHistorical Context: In the 1980s, total cholesterol levels below 240 mg/dL were often considered acceptable. Over time, guidelines tightened, with current recommendations emphasizing LDL ("bad") cholesterol below 100 mg/dL (or 70 mg/dL for high-risk individuals) and total cholesterol below 200 mg/dL.Scientific Studies Supporting Lower Cholesterol Thresholds:Framingham Heart Study (1948–ongoing):This landmark study established cholesterol as a key risk factor for cardiovascular disease (CVD). It showed that higher total cholesterol levels correlated with increased heart attack risk, prompting early guidelines to target lower levels. Later analyses refined this, emphasizing LDL cholesterol’s role in atherosclerosis, leading to more specific targets. Statins and Clinical Trials (1990s–2000s):Scandinavian Simvastatin Survival Study (4S, 1994): This trial demonstrated that lowering LDL cholesterol with statins in patients with existing heart disease significantly reduced mortality and heart attack risk. It supported targeting LDL levels below 130 mg/dL, a shift from earlier, less stringent goals. Heart Protection Study (2002): Showed that even individuals with “normal” LDL levels (around 130 mg/dL) benefited from further reductions, pushing guidelines toward lower LDL targets (e.g., <100 mg/dL for high-risk patients). PROVE-IT TIMI 22 (2004): Compared intensive (LDL <70 mg/dL) vs. moderate (LDL <100 mg/dL) statin therapy, finding better outcomes with lower LDL in high-risk patients, influencing guidelines to recommend <70 mg/dL for those with established CVD. Epidemiological and Genetic Evidence:Studies like the MRFIT (Multiple Risk Factor Intervention Trial) showed a continuous relationship between cholesterol levels and CVD risk, with no clear “safe” threshold, suggesting that lower is better for most populations. Genetic studies (e.g., PCSK9 mutation research) showed that individuals with naturally very low LDL levels (e.g., <50 mg/dL) have significantly reduced CVD risk, supporting aggressive lowering in high-risk groups. Guideline Evolution:The National Cholesterol Education Program (NCEP) in the 1980s set total cholesterol <240 mg/dL as a threshold. By the 2000s, ATP III guidelines shifted focus to LDL (<100 mg/dL for high-risk groups). The 2013 ACC/AHA Cholesterol Guidelines moved away from strict LDL targets, emphasizing risk-based statin therapy, but 2018 updates reinstated LDL <70 mg/dL for very high-risk patients based on newer trial data (e.g., FOURIER and ODYSSEY trials with PCSK9 inhibitors). Blood Pressure ThresholdsHistorical Context: In the 1970s–1980s, blood pressure thresholds for hypertension were higher (e.g., >160/100 mmHg). Over time, guidelines lowered the cutoff to 140/90 mmHg and, more recently, to 130/80 mmHg for many adults.Scientific Studies Supporting Lower Blood Pressure Thresholds:Veterans Administration Cooperative Study (1960s–1970s):Early trials showed that treating severe hypertension (>160/100 mmHg) reduced stroke and heart failure risk, establishing the benefits of blood pressure control and prompting initial guidelines. Hypertension Detection and Follow-Up Program (HDFP, 1979):Demonstrated that treating milder hypertension (diastolic 90–104 mmHg) reduced mortality, shifting focus to lower thresholds than previously considered. SPRINT Trial (2015):A pivotal study comparing intensive (<120 mmHg systolic) vs. standard (<140 mmHg systolic) blood pressure control in high-risk patients. Intensive treatment reduced cardiovascular events by 25% and mortality by 27%, strongly supporting lower targets. This trial heavily influenced the 2017 ACC/AHA Hypertension Guidelines, which redefined hypertension as ≥130/80 mmHg (previously ≥140/90 mmHg) for most adults. Meta-Analyses and Cohort Studies:Lancet 2016 Meta-Analysis: Analyzed multiple trials and confirmed that lowering blood pressure below 130/80 mmHg reduced CVD risk across populations, even in those without prior hypertension. Observational studies (e.g., Framingham) showed a linear increase in CVD risk starting at systolic pressures as low as 115 mmHg, supporting the “lower is better” approach for high-risk groups. Guideline Evolution:JNC 7 (2003): Defined hypertension as ≥140/90 mmHg, with treatment goals of <140/90 mmHg for most and <130/80 mmHg for high-risk groups (e.g., diabetes, kidney disease). 2017 ACC/AHA Guidelines: Lowered the hypertension threshold to ≥130/80 mmHg based on SPRINT and other data, emphasizing earlier intervention to prevent CVD. European Guidelines (2018): Maintained 140/90 mmHg as the general threshold but recommended <130/80 mmHg for many patients, reflecting similar evidence. Why Thresholds LoweredBetter Understanding of Risk: Long-term studies (e.g., Framingham, MRFIT) showed that even “normal” cholesterol and blood pressure levels carried significant CVD risk, especially in combination with other factors like age, smoking, or diabetes. Improved Treatments: Statins, PCSK9 inhibitors, and better antihypertensive drugs made achieving lower targets feasible and safe, supported by trials showing benefits outweighed risks. Population-Level Data: Epidemiological studies and meta-analyses confirmed that lower cholesterol and blood pressure levels correlate with reduced CVD events across diverse populations. Focus on Prevention: Guidelines shifted toward preventing events in lower-risk populations, not just treating those with established disease, leading to stricter thresholds. Caveats and ControversiesCholesterol: Some argue that overly aggressive LDL lowering (e.g., <70 mg/dL) may not benefit low-risk individuals and could increase side effects (e.g., statin-related muscle pain). The 2013 ACC/AHA guidelines’ shift away from strict LDL targets sparked debate, though later updates balanced risk-based and target-driven approaches. Blood Pressure: The SPRINT trial’s intensive targets (<120 mmHg systolic) raised concerns about risks like hypotension, kidney injury, or falls, particularly in older adults. JNC 8 (2014) and European guidelines have been more cautious, recommending individualized targets. Guideline Variability: Different organizations (e.g., ACC/AHA vs. European Society of Cardiology) interpret the same data differently, leading to varying thresholds and debates over “overtreatment.” ConclusionThe lowering of cholesterol and blood pressure thresholds is supported by robust scientific evidence from large-scale clinical trials (e.g., 4S, SPRINT), epidemiological studies (e.g., Framingham), and meta-analyses showing reduced CVD risk with lower levels. These findings, combined with advances in treatment, have driven guideline updates to prioritize prevention and tighter control. However, some controversies remain about balancing benefits and risks, especially in low-risk or elderly populations.

140/90 used to considered “normal blood pressure”.

Now if it’s above 110/70 they want you on drugs.

Thanks, I’ll stick with my personal targets for BP of 150/95. There was a huge study reported by 60 minutes decades ago (maybe the Swedish Nurses Study) where they tracked people over many years...the ones that lived longer had higher Blood Pressure. As far as Cholesterol goes, until they properly test LDL (meaning testing for particle size), its number is meaningless, and LDL does some very important things to for the human body. The BIG FACTORS in lipids is HDL and especially Triglycerides (fat in blood).