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We finally know why Queen Hatshepsut's statues were destroyed in ancient Egypt
Live Science ^ | June 23, 2025 | Owen Jarus

Posted on 06/25/2025 7:22:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: glorgau
She WAS a witch.
She turned me into a newt!
But I got better…
21 posted on 06/25/2025 9:55:14 AM PDT by GaltAdonis
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To: 9422WMR

Especially those who have and know how to swing an iron skillet!


Ha! You remind me of a story we heard at an Oregon Trail museum. The wagons had pulled up for the night, & everyone had given each other some distance for privacy. One woman’s husband decided to ride out to see if he could find some game. While he was away, the wife set up for dinner & brought out a salted pork to prepare. Suddenly a bear came out from the bushes & tried to take it. She wasn’t about to let that happen & hit it with a skillet. The bear didn’t go away. So she hit it again, & killed it. She then called the other people in the train to come help butcher the bear.

When her husband got back, he didn’t believe her story, until confirmed by others. The next time the woman went to use the skillet, it was gone. The husband figured if she could kill a bear with it, she could kill him, too, & disposed of it somewhere along the way.


22 posted on 06/25/2025 9:56:49 AM PDT by Twotone ( What's the difference between a politician & a flying pig? The letter "F.")
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To: Twotone

Good one!
My skillet story was about a woman’s husband who came home drunk one night. After he passed out in bed, the woman got her needle and thread and sewed the bed sheets together. She then grabbed her skillet and commenced to beating the tar out of the drunk, trapped husband. Ouch!!!
Don’t know if that story is true or not but heard it when I was a kid…


23 posted on 06/25/2025 10:30:11 AM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: Twotone

I had a great-great-great grandmother who died on the Oregon Trail. I assume she had a skillet, but I don’t think it was involved in her death one way or the other.


24 posted on 06/25/2025 10:45:39 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Flag_This

Deir el-Bahri has always been my favorite Egyptian ancient site. And I’m going to stick with the original reason for the defacements I learned when studying Egyptology. Thutmose III was a dick.


25 posted on 06/25/2025 10:45:53 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perfection is impossible. But if you pursue perfection...you may achieve excellence.)
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To: Savage Beast

Sam Kinison’s take on that makes the most sense.


26 posted on 06/25/2025 10:46:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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To: SunkenCiv

But Thutmose III did have her name scratched out of inscriptions.


27 posted on 06/25/2025 10:46:50 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 9422WMR
LOL!

Recently I dropped something from a shelf onto my face and gave myself a black eye. I told the children that I came home drunk and their mother hit me with the frying pan.

28 posted on 06/25/2025 11:14:16 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Nothing inflames unrest in the delusional, and nothing inflames unrest in the evil, like TRUTH.)
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To: Red Badger

It was the unauthorized use of her autopen.


29 posted on 06/25/2025 11:23:44 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: glorgau

IOW, believers in witches were superstitious nitwits in ancient times too.


30 posted on 06/25/2025 11:27:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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To: Twotone
Cooking implements have always been potential weapons.

You should see the old spits that were used for roasting meat. They could also have been used for defending the castle.

The last place you wanted to try to enter a fortress by was the kitchen entrance. Heavy things, hot things, sharp things and pointy things live there and all of them being used by people who wielded them for hours a day.

31 posted on 06/25/2025 11:56:15 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Perhaps, but that’s just as easily explained as being something that’s been taught and accepted, since AFAIK there aren’t any ancient accounts of his having done that. Each new pharaoh was (at least supposed to be) born of the same line as the previous pharaoh, hence all the ceremonial marriages. Hatshepsut was officially the wife of her own father, brother, and nephew in succession.

Centuries later, the Ptolemaic dynasty actually did carry out brother-sister marriages and reproduction. In earlier dynasties there were consanguineous marriages with cousins and whatnot, and apparently the formalities were spun to make it possible for a pharaoh to choose his successor based on actual abilities. As the Seti character said in 1956’s “The Ten Commandments”, he owes that to his fathers not to his sons.

OTOH, Hatshepsut’s daughter was literally of the same womb (matrilinear succession), and Hatshepsut’s personal campaign of rebranding appears to have been to set up her daughter as her own successor. It’s difficult not to see Senenmut’s hand in all of the intrigue. Assuming that he didn’t die of natural causes, I’d imagine he was killed off at T-III’s earliest convenience.

The Red Chapel was unfinished at H’s death, and was finished by T-III, but later demolished and parts of it used to construct other structures at Karnak, including some of T-III’s renovations. ( https://digitalkarnak.ucsc.edu/red-chapel/ )

Repurposing earlier works was common, right back into the Old Kingdom, there are examples at Giza. Ramses II had King Tut’s major construction of the Colonnade of the Temple of Luxor recarved with his own name. The reason the actual history is known is that Tut’s cartouches in the darkness near the ceiling were either missed or deliberately skipped. Ramses II may not have even known, or considered it unnecessary because it wasn’t readable from the floor. A colossal head of one of the pharaohs Sesostris was recarved as Ramses because there was a facial resemblance. The original headdress style on the sides of the face can still be seen, while the upper part was completely recarved.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hatshepsut

...following her death, Thutmose III ruled Egypt alone for 33 years. At the end of his reign, an attempt was made to remove all traces of Hatshepsut’s rule. Her statues were torn down, her monuments were defaced, and her name was removed from the official king list. Early scholars interpreted this as an act of vengeance, but it seems that Thutmose was ensuring that the succession would run from Thutmose I through Thutmose II to Thutmose III without female interruption. Hatshepsut sank into obscurity until 1822, when the decoding of hieroglyphic script allowed archaeologists to read the Dayr al-Baḥrī inscriptions. Initially the discrepancy between the female name and the male image caused confusion, but today the Thutmoside succession is well understood.


32 posted on 06/25/2025 12:03:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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To: ComputerGuy

That would be a good name for a soft drink marketed to people with anger issues. :^)


33 posted on 06/25/2025 1:09:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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