What Trump’s Critics Still Don’t Understand About Iran

American Greatness ^ | 22 Jun, 2025 | Roger Kimball

[MtnClimber]

“Convert or die” is not a religion of peace.

[Freeleesy]

The critics of Trump ignore reality of Islamic fascism

[PGR88]

The author is telling us that it’s all a clean, professional, surgical operation, where Iran will immediately be pounded into submission. Anyone who mentions negative 2nd/3rd order effects is a simp

When the history of US military intervention, particularly in the M.E., over the last 60 years tells us the exact opposite.

Who you gonna believe? Me? Or your lying eyes?

[Red6]

That is a fact.

This ROP crap is something our Western politicians and media perpetuate.

Islam is unlike other religions in that it is inherently violent, oppressive, and exclusive.

Sure, you can find some nice people that are Muslims. I do not doubt that and know some myself.

But the religion, the doctrinal teachings, are NOT about peace, love, forgiveness, and fairness.

While Islam borrows heavily from Judaism and Christianity, it is not the same.

[Eli Kopter]

The US DID NOT ATTACK Iran. They did attack the IRGC, and its bosses, which are, and have always been, terrorist organizations. We attacked the organization that has been directly responsible for hundreds of American deaths.

[Leaning Right]

> I would suggest pondering the possibility that, even if “we are not at war with Islam,” Islam may well be at war with us. <

Islam is definitely at war with us. And unfortunately, this latest strike on Iran did next to nothing to help us win that war. At heart, Islam is about ideas, not about access to weapons.

Does the West have the stomach to really fight those ideas? I fear not. We are all on Bush’s “Islam is peace” train. Only a horrific attack much worse than 9/11 could possibly derail it.

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[Carry_Okie]

Islam is unlike other religions in that it is inherently violent, oppressive, and exclusive.

You missed the key point: Islam is unlike other religions in that its adherents pray five times a day begging their god of darkness for conquest over the infidel with the promise of paradise. Islam is total conditioning, effectively self-induced brainwashing. My guess is that the best way to beat it is the power of distraction. That is why they so fear Western mass media.

[KrisKrinkle]

‘...there can be no doubt that if Iran possessed the bomb, it would use it. How many times have its spokesmen observed that Israel is a “one-bomb country?”’

I wonder what the target of that “one-bomb” would be.

[Freeleesy]

Thanks. And yes “ ביחד ננצח “

[KrisKrinkle]

‘Remember when President Obama told us that terrorist groups like ISIS were not really Islamic because “no religion condones the killing of innocents.” ‘

Yeah, but who decides who is an innocent and who is not?

[Leaning Right]

You are on to something. This latest attack on Iran did something good. It evidently reduced (or eliminated) their nuclear program.

But as you noted, there will probably be 2nd/3rd order effects. On of which will be that the attack will motive Islamists everywhere to take revenge (death to the infidels, and all that). I hate to make the analogy, but it could be something like our Pearl Harbor moment.

I am NOT saying there shouldn’t have been a strike. I am saying that we had better be ready for blowback.

[arthurus]

Islam has been at war with the infidel world since the latter 600s AD. There are periods of quiescence usually when islam has been beeten so thoroughly that Mohammedans everywhere conclude that Allah does not wish Islam to prevail in “this” generation. Malta and Vieenna were such defeats. World War I destroyed the Ottoman Empire and much Mohammedan territory was occupied by infidel armies. With the rise to power of the Left in Europe and America Islam has risen up in the weakness and delusional thinking of Liberal regimes throughout the West. It is on the verge of subsuming Western Europe and making nasty inroads in America, all of it, North and South. We are looking at the likely advent of a three power world i.e. America (if Trump understanding and resolve are not an abeerration), China, and Islam. Unfortunately America and China are both empires in economic and moral collapse. Islam is strong and resurgent. Who will stop the advance at Tours this time?

[logi_cal869]

In contrast to his predecessors, I can side with DJT’s strategy, despite my skepticism that this attack achieved anything but demonstrating POTUS’ will to act.

That stated, he must also engage an operation to frame the correct history of prior US policy and actions on Iran, as I see future coordinated WMD attacks by Iran as inevitable and, regardless the specifics, the results - i.e., ‘deaths’ - must lie at the feet of his predecessors and burn as though they were tied to stakes.

[one guy in new jersey]

“The US DID NOT ATTACK Iran. They did attack the IRGC, and its bosses, which are, and have always been, terrorist organizations. We attacked the organization that has been directly responsible for hundreds of American deaths.”

Really excellently put EK.

The thugocracy in Tehran since the late ‘70s has always been a brutal criminal enterprise, blatantly, crassly, cynically, wearing state sovereignty as a “skin suit”.

[cuz1961]

When the history of US military intervention, particularly in the M.E., over the last 60 years tells us the exact opposite.

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we have had infiltrated cloward priven commies in our gov and military and white house most of those years

now we have a president and CIC who isnt a commie or grifter, a man who loves America and us citizens more than himself.

i dont worship the man, but he has , so far, shown to be trustworthy . he has risked all he has , fortune, freedom and life , to fight for the benefit of our citizens. most of us recognize and appreciate that more than the likes of you can seem to comprehend. you...at the best.. are the simp.

[katana]

When Christians and Jews (and Buddhists, Sikhs, etc.) commit murder it is in contravention to the teachings of their religions. When Muslims commit murder it is in compliance with fundamental teachings of theirs. They are following the example of their “perfect man” and final prophet of God. This includes “honor” killings within families, parents murdering their own children. When western politicians, so called intellectuals, and religious “leaders” ignore and deny this they become accessories to murder.

[Leaning Right]

> Islam is strong and resurgent. <

Yes. Very good post, yours.

I would add that Islam today is also clever. They’ve switched strategies from military conquest to patient and steady infiltration.

Such a strategy can be countered by waging an all-out war of ideas. But the pathetically weak West doesn’t have the stomach for that.

[Bookshelf]

Roger Kimball is truly America’s intellectual.

[odawg]

You say:

“The author is telling us that it’s all a clean, professional, surgical operation, where Iran will immediately be pounded into submission. Anyone who mentions negative 2nd/3rd order effects is a simp.

The author says:

“Whether they [bombing] were also effective in luring Iran back into the community of nations is a matter that only time will tell.”

Conclusion: you can’t read.