Posted on 06/16/2025 10:05:32 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
LOL — “We are getting our asses whooped! Can we talk now?”
I see. Now that the Little Satan is kicking their asses, they’re ready to cut a deal with the Great Satan.
Screw surrender. A complete annihilation of the Mullahs and everyone associated with them who have been wreaking havoc over the Middle East for decades.
I’m sure the Arab states are encouraging the Persians to continue their futile resistance. They won’t mind seeing Iran beaten into the pavement.
Usually the side calling for a cease fire are the ones who are getting their asses handed to them
Join the fight? We still owe them a punch in the nose over the hostages in ‘79. Does Trump believe in karma? The bombs dropped on Japan was a message to our enemies. Time for another. Just let Israel finish the job and then let that bunker buster go to work along with a couple of MOAB’s.
I don’t think there’s anything to negotiate anymore if the Ayatollah and the Mullahs are still in power.
Some of the key developments of note:
Israel has destroyed the Tehran Police HQ, Intelligence Ministry, Iranian Navy HQ, Justice Ministry, and Iranian Air Force HQ.
Israel’s intelligence (Mossad) had previously carried out several operations to sabotage Iran’s missile defenses.
Israel destroyed the headquarters for Iran’s “riot police” which have been responsible for suppressing political uprisings against the country’s Islamic leadership.
The U.S. is alleged to have been coordinating with Israel throughout the attacks ( yeah yeah, Rubio can deny all he wants ).
The last revelation is key.
IF the U.S. has been involved in this entire process (and I believe it is), then it is clear the goal was regime change in Iran, not simply crippling Iran’s nuclear development programs.
The financial markets (which I am very much involved in) appear to be confirming this.
If the markets were discounting a global conflagration/ World War III scenario, stock futures would be collapsing. They’re not. As I write this Monday morning, the markets are UP, not down. This suggests that Iran’s current government will fall shortly, and the situation will be resolved without global escalation.
Now that the fight is on, it has to continue until the mullahs have been pushed out of power. Just my view.
They realize they’re on the brink of destruction, but it’s not personal preservation that is motivating them to take such a humbling step as suggesting negotiation with the U.S., it’s their hope to survive long enough to destroy Israel. We should do nothing to help them achieve that, and everything to prevent it.
They’re so close to elimination that we should gladly help Israel achieve it, if they are unable to completely close them out themselves (such as the need for the MOP to destroy Fordow). This is NOT Vietnam or Iraq, it is a situation where they are CLEARLY trying to develop nukes and use them against an ally of ours, if not us as well, and a situation in which they have zero support within the region. The other islamic countries in the Middle East want them dead as much as Israel does.
IN THIS CASE, the path to peace is to destroy Iran’s nuclear program and remove the mullahs, while the path to a quagmire, war, and possibly even WWIII is to sit on our hands and let them proceed as they have been. I’m as opposed to follies such as Ukraine as much as anyone, but we can’t become head-in-the-sand isolationists who throw out the baby with the bath water by dismissing even real, legitimate threats as “not our business.”
This reminds me of idiot social media influencers - cause a bunch of drama and as soon as the ass whooping commences start yelling “It’s just a prank, bro.”
There is only one resolution to this conflict, Iran must capitulate completely.
Unconditional surrender.
“If the US joins, they won’t be able to negotiate?”
We haven’t. If we did, the whole world would know it. If they go to the tables, and cease aggression with their military and terrorist supported groups, we wouldn’t have to go to the tables at all. Iran should have been doing this all the time. But because they lie and get people hurt, who is to say they will do anything?
wy69
Mullahs bit off more than they could chew in their Jihad sandwich.
:-)
Good times!
(Not without obvious downsides, but still and all.)
A government that does not get its legitimacy from the populace. Iranian elections are a sham.
Suppression of population.
Actual threat to other nations.
Few allies, and allies who have lots of enemies.
Finally, giving the regime's enemies a reason to want to take down the Iranian government, the October 7 attacks.
It just took a few years for Israel to get all the pieces in place.
If the US joins, there won’t be anything to negotiate.
The Iranians are typical of that area. They think everything is a negotiation that they can use to extend their position.
They had their chance. They FA’d. Now they are finding out.
Hear hear!
“A complete annihilation of the Mullahs and everyone associated with them who have been wreaking havoc over the Middle East for decades.”
Yep. All of them.
No mercy.
No remorse.
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