Posted on 06/15/2025 6:57:41 AM PDT by DoodleBob
This is just a snippet of how the medical-media-academic industrial complex have destroyed their “authority” in this matter.
They lie: For the record professors, per the CDC there is no such thing as “too young for vaccines.” The CDC Guidelines would have a baby get two vaccines at birth, another vax at 1 month, five vaccines at 2 months, and a total of TWENTY-ONE vaccines by 6 months of age.
safe AND effective
And it’s PROPAGANDA TIME!
For leftists, vaccines and fake science is a Sunday devotional.
Rational thinkers follow the money.
That reminds me: how are our FReeper COVIDians these days?!
More propaganda.
They are shameless.
They sure liked to use the term “free rider” often. And they felled to mention that people have access to authortative voices such as Dr. Malone.
Starts off with, “As professors with expertise in vaccine policy and health economics, we argue that the decision not to vaccinate isn’t simply about misinformation or hesitancy.”
Now anyone could have saved their time by stopping right there. Their view is that reading graphs trumps actual scientific knowledge and experience. I did read a bit more but got bored.
SCIENCE ISN'T MATH.
It never was.
And it sure isn't now.
The history of science is littered with "no wait....that's wrong...THIS is right..." going through the rinse and repeat cycle endlessly.
And that's ok. Inquiry and challenge and "being a science heretic" is, in many ways, how mankind learns more and can fix more problems.
One of my favorite sagas regarding "accuracy" and "settled science" is ulcers.
In 1981 Barry Marshall began working with Robin Warren, the Royal Perth Hospital pathologist who, two years earlier, discovered the gut could be overrun by hardy, corkscrew-shaped bacteria called Helicobacter pylori. Biopsying ulcer patients and culturing the organisms in the lab, Marshall traced not just ulcers but also stomach cancer to this gut infection. The cure, he realized, was readily available: antibiotics. But mainstream gastroenterologists were dismissive, holding on to the old idea that ulcers were caused by stress.
Unable to make his case in studies with lab mice (because H. pylori affects only primates) and prohibited from experimenting on people, Marshall... ran an experiment on ...himself. He took some H. pylori from the gut of an ailing patient, stirred it into a broth, and drank it....Back in the lab, he biopsied his own gut, culturing H. pylori and proving unequivocally that bacteria were the underlying cause of ulcers.
For their work on H. pylori, Marshall and Warren shared a 2005 Nobel Prize. Today the standard of care for an ulcer is treatment with an antibiotic.
But science isn't math. Your checking account balance is the sum of deposits less sum of withdrawals. Always. Forever.
The problem arises when people try to equate science with math...usually they call it "settled science." And, to be sure, robust inquiry and disciplined application of the scientific method usually gives you clear and distinct results. Then, science is settled...until we get new data or better techniques, and then we get "wait a minute..".
For example, there was a most excellent article posted on how "settled science" wasn't so settled, wherein:
seems that Earth has been misplaced. According to a new map of the Milky Way galaxy, the Solar System's position isn't where we thought it was. Not only is it closer to the galactic centre - and the supermassive hole therein, Sagittarius A* - it's orbiting at a faster clip.
It further noted other "errors" in SCIENCE:
A good recent example of this is the red giant star Betelgeuse, which turned out to be closer to Earth than previous measurements suggested. This means that it's neither as large nor as bright as we thought. Another is the object CK Vulpeculae, a star that exploded 350 years ago. It's actually much farther away, which means that the explosion was brighter and more energetic, and requires a new explanation, since previous analyses were performed under the assumption it was relatively low energy
The other problem arises when Certain Powers work overtime to suppress assiduous inquiry. Which, is what we have today as well. It's a bad double whammy.
In the interest of full disclosure, my "science isn't math" quote came from a recent post on social sciences, that featured this brilliant give and take involving a Harvard faculty member critical of Charles Murray from the original article, that is worth reprinting - it is with regard to the "certainty of SCIENCE":
"so why should we let someone teach social science that we know to be wrong in our social science courses?"
Because it is possible that you are wrong.
Science is not mathematics. Newtonian physics was wrong. And social science is a further three rungs down in certainty from science.
Your level of certainty and arrogance about what can be said, and probably thought, smacks of religion, and not science. This is a political religion that permeates academia at the moment. And which I am fairly sure you will swear does not infect you, while the rest of us can see the symptoms quite plainly.
Only religions ban heretics from speaking because of the wrong-think they might cause. Real science loves a good heretic. In fact, honestly, the entire goal of science is to be a heretic. To have an idea that no other person ever had. Science is the pretty much the antithesis of your thought-police approach.
And most of academia used to be the antithesis of your thought police approach as well, until the religion of leftism took it over, with the direct help of people like you.
They still don’t get it.
I’m sure there are some that count on others being vaxxed, but I think the more common risk being weighed is what disease is actually being treated vs the risk you’d acquire it otherwise.
E.g. Measles - a definite good vax choice. Common and if not vaxxed, very likely to get.
HPV - No. While it’s true that your daughter may become the whore of the town at 8 years old, most don’t. The caveat - if I’m the type of parent that encourages sexual proclivity, yes in the preteen years. If not, let them know of the option in latter teen years.
Flu - Again no, unless there is some other health problem risk factor. Too common and easy to acquire some herd immunity due to its prevalence. Plus, these vaxes are not actually updated as often as you think.
Last I checked in 2022, the flu vax was against strains prior to 2020. Though they do check what strain is prevalent every year, they usually consider the prior year’s vax sufficient. This makes it mostly useless - the odds are you were exposed to the strain since the last the vax was updated so why bother?
Let’s assume vaccines are as effective as claimed and have as few side effects as claimed.
Then isn’t allowing millions of unvetted, unvaccinated illegal aliens into our country a much larger influencer of herd immunity and thus a larger issue for public health authorities than those parents who evaluate the risks and choose not to vax the kids?
rational people who trust “science”? What is called science is really propaganda. Anyone who trusts it is not rational.
Data point: I'm not a religious. I spent too many years on worship committees watching the sausage being made. That said, I have more faith in our evolution and our Creator than in the warlocks in their bio labs. Keep to the process of proving "safe and effective" with scientific rigor, please.
Such a great start to a topic which needed to be analyzed logically...
...and the authors blew it. Majorly.
Such analysis is derelict - if not outright negligent - for naught of discussion of the impact of mRNA jabs and the damage wrought to confidence in the medical system by a combination of bureaucratic, medical and governmental actions.
To some of us, that’s stating the obvious.
If I had the time, I’d write a rather brutal assessment of their BS article and send/post it to slap them with a heavy dose of reality.
Whatever fantasy the authors live in may pay the bills and feed the confirmation bias for a segment of the populace, but I frame this piece as a total fail.
Vaccination at birth is insane.
The kid needs to get the colostrum in there to develop at least some immunity first. Without that process, there’s no point to early vaccination.
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