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MLB commissioner Rod Manfred concedes President Trump partially influenced decision to reinstate Pete Rose
yahoo.com ^

Posted on 06/05/2025 10:11:55 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

Trump has been a longtime supporter of Rose, who was permanently placed on the ineligible list in 1989 as part of an agreement with MLB after an investigation unearthed ample evidence that he had gambled on the Cincinnati Reds while he was managing them. Rose agreed to the punishment without formally admitting guilt, but had his requests for reinstatement rejected or ignored by three different MLB commissioners, including Manfred, before his death in 2023.

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KEYWORDS: cincinnatireds; mlb; peterose; rodmanfred
It's good politics. I would not have reinstated Rose on any terms as a lesson to any other gamblers. Time changes things and liberal attitudes win out in the end. Nobody wants to be the bad guy. I'm for it inly because it makes Trump look good.
1 posted on 06/05/2025 10:11:55 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Think how Joe Paterno’s life ended.


2 posted on 06/05/2025 10:13:34 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“lesson to any other gamblers”

That’s rich! When’s the last time you watched a MLB game? All game long the broadcast feeds you betting tips and info. I’d say the biggest advertising source of revenue for MLB are the gamblers!

As far as lessons for gamblers, watch a MLB broadcast. MLB teaches you parleys and anything else useful for Betting On Baseball every game, all game long.


3 posted on 06/05/2025 10:24:01 AM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 36 months)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

As far as pro athletes gambling these days, I wouldn’t doubt it’s rampant....and it also wouldn’t surprise me in the least that betting on one’s own team isn’t common as well.

I mean think about it, just nfl wise you can’t watch a game without being inundated with online gambling opportunities....not to mention drafting and all the rest of it.


4 posted on 06/05/2025 10:30:45 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: hardspunned

Yeah, it’s blatantly hypocritical for baseball management to point a finger at Pete Rose while taking money from sports betting companies.


5 posted on 06/05/2025 10:47:08 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I would not have reinstated Rose on any terms as a lesson to any other gamblers.


If Pete Rose had played for the Yankees, Boston, LA or similar coastal areas, he would have been in the HOF decades ago. The purpose of the anti-gambling on baseball rule is to prevent a Black Sox-type scandal where you bet against your own team and then run-shave. Rose never bet against the Cincy Reds, and 99% of the bets he placed on baseball didn’t even involve his own games. His bets did not affect the outcome of one baseball game, whereas the Sosa, McGwire, Bonds, etc. use of steroids affected the outcome of EVERY game they played, yet they are HOF eligible.


6 posted on 06/05/2025 10:59:57 AM PDT by bort
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To: V_TWIN

The players aren’t corrupted by their personal betting. The players are corrupted by the trillion dollar betting industry.

It’s not about Rose. It’s about the Black Sox.


7 posted on 06/05/2025 11:02:17 AM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 36 months)
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To: bort
where you bet against your own team and then run-shave.

Most baseball betting is NOT based on runs, but on odds of winning(typical being 5 1/2 - 6 1/2).

The Black Sox outright lost a series in which they were heavily favored.
8 posted on 06/05/2025 11:07:04 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Dr. Sivana

My point is that the anti-gambling rule was to prevent another Black Sox scandal, where batters intentionally strike out, fielders intentionally commit errors, etc. Bottom line: the issue was players betting against their own team (or getting paid by gamblers who were betting against their team) and then actively sabotaging their own team. Pete Rose did not do this. 99% of his bets involved games that his team was not participating in. And in the few games that Pete bet on involving the Reds, he bet them to win (according to his bookie). The New York and East Coast media hated (and hates) Pete Rose, and that’s why he was banned from baseball for so long.


9 posted on 06/05/2025 11:40:10 AM PDT by bort
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