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To: Petrosius
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Nato demand for 3.5pc defence spending blows hole in Starmer’s review, Petrosius wrote:

There would be no war of any kind if Russia would just go home. Those who are making this a proxy war are those who erroneously think that a Russian victory would somehow advance the cause of freedom in the west. They are letting their distain for their domestic political opponents color their views about Ukraine.

False. NATO/CIA created this war. The timeline starts even before they overthrew the Ukraine in 2014. You keep posting as if the proxy war started in 2022 with Russia. It started long before then with NATO/CIA.


5 posted on 06/03/2025 5:49:43 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

See: Victoria Nuland (Obama)


7 posted on 06/03/2025 6:15:27 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: ransomnote
You keep posting as if the proxy war started in 2022 with Russia.

Incorrect. This war started in 2014 when Putin induced Yanukovych to betray the Ukrainian people by reneging on the EU economic agreement and seeking to tie Ukraine to Russia via the Eurasian Economic Union. This, not the CIA, is what set off the protests that lead to Yanukovych fleeing to Russia. And this is the little inconvenient fact that Russian apologists always gloss over.

8 posted on 06/03/2025 6:17:16 PM PDT by Petrosius
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