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To: blueyon

To sabotage any chance of negotiations.

Been done countless times before.
Remember spring of 22 when they all but signed a negotiated agreement?
When BoJo the hoehoe went over and sabotaged that one also.
Thats Boris Johnson if you dont know.


6 posted on 06/01/2025 3:12:28 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz
Remember spring of 22 when they all but signed a negotiated agreement?

Myth. There was no "close" deal, because the russians were demanding a surrender by Ukraine.

Negotiations before Putins invasion of Ukraine were held in Belarus and Turkey in 2022, according to the Polish Foreign Mininster who was there, the Russians essentially demanded Ukraine's surrender.

Russia did not want peace, only the capitulation of Ukraine. Jakub Kumoch, former Secretary of State of Polish President Andrzej Duda, who accompanied the Ukrainian delegation to negotiations with Russia in Belarus and Turkey in the spring of 2022, told the newspaper The Polish Times.

"Let us call it mildly: singularly. It was a draft with the comments of both sides. The document was clearly prepared before the Russian invasion and by the Russians. He provided, among other things, the recognition of the annexation of Crimea, the so-called independence of the eastern regions of Ukraine, the reduction of the size of the Ukrainian army, bilingualism, the ban on joining NATO, perpetual neutrality, etc. There were also purely demeaning elements, such as a commitment to denazification or the introduction of the Great Patriotic War, as the Russians call their contribution to World War II. Things that A State never imposes on State B. Meanwhile, Russia has brought in the entire list of laws that Ukraine is to change. It began with the Constitution."

https://i.pl/jakub-kumoch-ujawnia-kulisy-negocjacji-rosja-nie-chciala-pokoju-tylko-kapitulacji-ukrainy/ar/c1p2-26324503

9 posted on 06/01/2025 4:29:20 PM PDT by tlozo
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To: crz
I see the bozo showed up to scrawl a bunch of meaningless words in "rebuttal" to your post.

These zeepers are tiresome.

11 posted on 06/01/2025 4:46:29 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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