Posted on 05/31/2025 9:28:08 PM PDT by ransomnote
Do you think the weight bearing bunker buster bomb fighter planes are among the aircraft on our carriers heading “over there”??
( 30+ carriers set off days ago.)
It was Oman. I was close.
I read our tankers are there already to fuel Israeli bombers. Not sure that means we’re confined, or at some regional max. It was monkeywerxus after all, w/o intel detail.
“I read our tankers are there already to fuel Israeli bombers.”
Israel has been refueling their own starting Day One.
The Exhortist
That is one Big, Beautiful Flag!
I'm thinking that whatever Trump does, that the order to attack Iran has probably already been given at Netanyahu's request. (If A happens, then do B; if C happens then do D, etc.)
And, I'm thinking it'll take more than one or two bunker busters, so it'll give Trump time (in between the bb's)to, once again, extend the offer to unconditionally surrender, and more time to let ppl escape Tehran.
However, I don't think the ayatollah would accept. But, I don't think he cares -- also, he would need to turn his back on becoming a martyr.
The longer he resists in the face of such destruction, the more pitiful and crazy he will be perceived to be.
In any case, Trump wins. He's playing a role in hugely respecting Israel (I think God will honor that) before the world so that their mortal enemies can see how very capable Israel is of defending itself [peace through strength].
Also, I see Trump ready to help as needed, but not taking over, even as the Pentagon positions our military, but coming aside to help, prepping the future with counseling of the ayatollah (with warnings and entreaties and ultimatum), and patiently waiting to act, doing everything he can, to prevent as much loss of life as possible, etc.
When the bombs are dropped...the victory will be Israel's. They have suffered unbelievably and conducted a just and winning war. It will not look hasty and or even without regret. But, this will be the inevitable and unavoidable decision to rid Israel and the world (and, Iran) of the world's most dangerous terrorist.
Who knows what all kind of deals will come out of this? Business, sure; humanitarian, I would dearly hope. (NOT USAIDS stuff!).
P.S. Who knows? Maybe, bunker busters might not be needed after all and there will be an uprising among the Iranians still there. But would they have enough fortitude and autonomy left among their people to pull it off?
P.P.S. I've been told that the Christian population in Iran is among the fastest places in the world with a rapid increase in their numbers.
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Sam Brinton boarding a flight to Iran.
I think although US does not exactly exclude refueling Israel that you are correct. I mis-interpreted my read, here:
US bolsters Trump’s Middle East military options by moving refueling aircraft, officials say
By Phil Stewart, Idrees Ali, Joanna Plucinska and Jonathan Landay
June 16, 20255:14 PM CDTUpdated June 16, 2025
U.S. President Trump at the White House in Washington
U.S. President Donald Trump sits in the Oval Office at the White House, in Washington, D.C., U.S., June 10, 2025. REUTERS/Nathan Howard/File Photo Purchase Licensing Rights, opens new tab
Summary
US military strengthens air power amid Iran-Israel conflict
Deployment includes refueling aircraft and aircraft carrier Nimitz, officials say
Trump vetoes Israeli plan to target Iran’s Supreme Leader
WASHINGTON, June 16 (Reuters) - The U.S. military has moved a large number of refueling aircraft to Europe to provide options to President Donald Trump as Middle East tensions erupt into conflict between Iran and Israel, two U.S. officials told Reuters on Monday, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The officials also said the U.S. aircraft carrier Nimitz was heading to the Middle East, in what one of them said was a pre-planned deployment. The Nimitz can hold 5,000 personnel and more than 60 aircraft, including fighter jets.
“Taken together, the deployments, which were first reported by Reuters, suggest the United States is greatly strengthening its air power for potentially sustained operations as Iran and Israel trade blows in unprecedented open warfare.
Israel began bombing Iran on Friday, saying Tehran was on the verge of building a nuclear bomb. Since then, Iran and Israel have launched large salvos against each other, killing and wounding civilians and raising concerns about a broader regional conflict.
The U.S. officials declined to comment on the number of aircraft. The Pentagon referred Reuters to the White House, which did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
“The sudden eastward deployment of over two dozen U.S. Air Force tankers is not business as usual. It鈥檚 a clear signal of strategic readiness,” said Eric Schouten at Dyami Security Intelligence.
“Whether it鈥檚 about supporting Israel, preparing for long-range operations, logistics is key, this move shows the U.S. is positioning itself for rapid escalation if tensions with Iran spill over.”The U.S. officials declined to comment on the number of aircraft. “
Israel CONFIRMS Full Control Over Tehran As Iran Officials Defect
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4323894/posts
Mahyar Tousi TV ^ | 18/6/25 | Mahyar Tousi
Government planes leaving for Oman, Khamenei abdicated in favor of IRGC. IRGC bigwigs defecting to Crown Prince. Trump says well beyond cease fire. Victory is goal now, no nuclear weapons.
Transcript linked below video.
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
Israel CONFIRMS Full Control Over Tehran As Iran Officials Defect
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4323894/posts
Mahyar Tousi TV ^ | 18/6/25 | Mahyar Tousi
Government planes leaving for Oman, Khamenei abdicated in favor of IRGC. IRGC bigwigs defecting to Crown Prince. Trump says well beyond cease fire. Victory is goal now, no nuclear weapons.
Transcript linked below video.
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
Whew!
I would like to say 'No' - and in general I still do. However, the appearance of all those air refueling craft flying east raised a doubt; the first thing that came to mind was the B2s and the need to refuel over Europe since they leave from the continental U.S.
The only need for the B2s is the deep underground nuclear site, Fordo. It is estimated that it would take a relay of maybe three quick successive B2 missions to neutralize the underground facility. I do believe Prez Trump has positioned himself to carry that mission to the finish if all else fails.
I am not totally sure that the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei still has a country. What he does have is quickly diminishing territory and his faithful diplomats at the United Nations in New York. They have announced that Iran will never surrender - but next week they may find no living expenses for that high New York life.馃し
I really don’t think we have anything on a carrier that can carry the big bunker busters like the 22,000 pound MOAB or that 30,000 pound monster.
I don’t know enough about Navy aircraft but the common thought is that the plane has to be able to take off from a short runway, which would be the deck of a carrier. So a huge payload is most likely not going to happen.
Great list of military assets and mission assignments!
Rita
(11 hrs ago.)
Newsweek
Excerpt:
” U.S. officials said the tankers may join a NATO exercise in Europe. 馃憠 The State Department told diplomats to assure hosts the tankers are not backing Israeli air operations in Iran.” 馃憟
https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-us-military-deployments-that-point-war-iran-2087171
Israeli pilots have trained on the B2. Trump could lease one to Israel for a week, and even put a peal-off Star of David sticker on it. Just bring it back with a full tank of gas. Free MOABs with every rental. Go for it.
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