[DesertRhino]

I would like to see China or Russia release a clone of Google circa 2012 or something. Something from before the AI, before the “decision engine” concept.

Back then you could search for something and find it. Today it utterly ignores all your search terms and serves up things with a hard commercial or recent news bias. None of the old tricks like quotation marks etc work.

A pirated one in a country they couldn’t reach would be really cool to hurt google.

[cgbg]

One old trick of mine still works well.

I pick a topic and put the search into the search engine.

It returns the usual leftist propaganda sites.

I look through them and identify three or four key words they keep using that show leftist bias.

Then I redo the initial search followed by the minus sign before each leftist key word.

The mainstream and leftist media articles disappear.

This works because the propaganda uses the exact same words no matter the publication.

Format:

Mykeywordsformysearch -leftistwordone -leftistwordtwo -leftistwordthree

[Openurmind]

“I would like to see China or Russia release a clone of Google circa 2012 or something. Something from before the AI, before the “decision engine” concept.

Back then you could search for something and find it. Today it utterly ignores all your search terms and serves up things with a hard commercial or recent news bias. None of the old tricks like quotation marks etc work.

A pirated one in a country they couldn’t reach would be really cool to hurt google.”

This is one of the best statements on the topic I have seen in a long time.

ABSOLUTELY. Brave is trying to do this with their search engine but I am finding it too is manipulative, filtered, and commercially oriented also.

It would not be that hard to do, the problem is the time it would take to crawl the net to fill it up. It would take years...

I was thinking about this a few days ago. What might actually work is an old school “directory”. Let everyone come add their site to it in categories. And have a “report” feature for users to help police it for illegal content.

Make it self driven and non-profit so that there is no incentive to commercialize it and be partial to businesses. Just plan old information links where everyone is equal. It would be extremely easy to make that database itself keyword searchable.

The problem would be storage... Cloud based maybe?

[Svartalfiar]

I would like to see China or Russia release a clone of Google circa 2012 or something. Something from before the AI, before the “decision engine” concept.

Why would either of those countries release a "clean" version of Google? They'll have just as much propaganda, brainwashing, and censorship as Google now, just from the State instead of a monopoly!