It's over, Freepers...
Well, fix the Bill and send it back to the house.
“...they will get blamed for heaping trillions of dollars onto the debt and the economic consequences that may follow in the future...”
Totally ignoring the $10 trillion debt that Puppet Biden hoisted on America by bringing in 20 million more illegal aliens (paid by the USA taxpayer). Where was all the angst about the national debt when Quisling Biden passed his Inflation Reduction Act?
How ‘bout this. Let’s just say **** IT! and continue with the status quo FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE U.S. Government? Doing anything about it was a dumbass idea. It’s too much trouble and it leaves unemployed freeloaders and illegal aliens without their Free Edition, “American Dream”.
They should drastically cut the spending—and then shove it down the throats of the House.
Until the pandemic, Trump’s annual budget deficits were sub-$1T. The bloated budget he submitted to Congress features a deficit of over $2T for 2025. This is a budget that needs to be put on Ozempic.
I would say that the past fifteen years of 20% increased Omnibus Spending bills, with no specifics on agency appropriations is a nuclear debt bomb, and that came from the legislative branch now fighting an actual budget.
Did anyone see Stephan Millers defense of this bill? If he’s to be believed (and I do) the Republicans are completely mischaracterizing almost every aspect of it. Here’s the text of it:
Update from Stephen Miller: “I’ve seen a few claims making the rounds on the Big Beautiful Bill that require correction.
The first is that it doesn’t “codify the DOGE cuts.” A reconciliation bill, which is a budget bill that passes with 50 votes, is limited by senate rules to “mandatory” spending only — eg Medicaid and Food Stamps. The senate rules prevent it from cutting “discretionary” spending — eg the Department of Education or federal grants. The DOGE cuts are overwhelmingly discretionary, not mandatory. The bill saves more than 1.6 TRILLION in mandatory spending, including the largest-ever welfare reform. A remarkable achievement.
I’ve also seen claims the bill increases the deficit. This lie is based on a CBO accounting gimmick. Income tax rates from the 2017 tax cut are set to expire in September. They were always planned to be permanent. CBO says maintaining *current* rates adds to the deficit, but by definition leaving these income tax rates unchanged cannot add one penny to the deficit. The bill’s spending cuts REDUCE the deficit against the current law baseline, which is the only correct baseline to use.
Another fantastically false claim is that the bill spends trillions of dollars. This is just completely invented out of whole cloth. This is not a ten year budget bill—it doesn’t “fund” almost any operations of government, which are funded in the annual budget bills (which this is not). In other words, if this bill passed, but the annual budget bill did not, there would be no government funding. Under the math that critics are using, if we passed a one paragraph reconciliation bill that cut simply 50 billion in food stamp spending, they would say the bill “added” trillions in spending and debt because they are counting ALL the projected federal spending that exists entirely outside the scope of this legislation, which is of course preposterous. The only funding in the bill is for the President’s border and defense priorities, while enacting a net spending cut of over 1.6 TRILLION dollars.
The bill has two fiscal components: a massive tax cut and a massive spending cut.”
If so, what is the President doing?
You really need to learn the difference between bluster and action.
This bill has been reported to be dead or in trouble so many times it is now a running joke, not to mention this is from “The Hill,” not a credible news source.
I will wait for the process to finish and see what happens in the end.
...1,116-page budget reconciliation bill is asinine to begin with.
There’s 15 federal executive departments of the United States government are:
Department of Agriculture (USDA) (ELIMINATE)
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense (DOD)
Department of Education (ELIMINATE)
Department of Energy (DOE)
Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) (ELIMINATE)
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) (REDO OR ELIMINATE)
Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) (ELIMINATE)
Department of Interior
Department of Justice (DOJ)
Department of Labor (DOL) (ELIMINATE)
Department of State
Department of Transportation (DOT) (ELIMINATE)
Department of the Treasury (REDO OR ELIMINATE)
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)
Independent Agencies
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) (ELIMINATE)
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) (REDO OR ELIMINATE)
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)
Federal Communications Commission (FCC) (REDO OR ELIMINATE)
Federal Trade Commission (FTC) (ELIMINATE)
National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) (REDO OR ELIMINATE)
National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) (ELIMINATE)
National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)(ELIMINATE)
Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC)
Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) (REDO OR ELIMINATE)
Small Business Administration (SBA)(ELIMINATE)
Social Security Administration (SSA) (REDO OR ELIMINATE)
U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) (ELIMINATE)
U.S. Postal Service (USPS) (government corporation) (ELIMINATE)
Government Corporations (ELIMINATE ALL)
Amtrak (National Railroad Passenger Corporation) (ELIMINATE)
Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) (ELIMINATE)
United States Enrichment Corporation (USEC) (ELIMINATE)
Since when does the GOP give a shit about the debt?
Posers, one and all.
There are two kinds of debt here. The kind Bidet and Sotero put on us that is perpetual (welfare) and the kind Trump wants which is (not permanent we hope) to fix the previous issues by building up programs to prevent illegal immigration, build our defense profile, and bring back manufacturing.
They are apples and oranges.
It’s a debt bomb if you don’t fix the executive level of spending. The executive can ask for appropriations, but it doesn’t have to spend all of the money. There is a good chance that Trump requested the money, but doesn’t plan on spending it, IMHO. Congress has been unable and unmotivated to make cuts, so logically you pass a spending bill and not spend the money.
The only question is whether it is better than another wretched CR.
What are the specific debt and deficit reduction proposals of the opponents? I would love to have them force real cuts on the current bill, then reform the budget/spending process. Opposition without putting forth viable alternatives is just CYA, something Congress does best.
Congress is full of spendaholics including many Republicans who want “free” government money for their pet projects. Trump needs to create a program similar to AA to get members of Congress off wasteful spending. Try eliminating subsidies for the corn ethanol boondoggle and watch members from Midwestern corn producing states have DTs
My advice to Trump is investigate and prosecute congressional republicans and stand up a new party while he’s President. It’s the only way to save America.
This from the Congress that will NOT end the use of baseline budgeting.
SO THEN SPEND LESS, MORONS!!!