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Palm Springs IVF clinic bomber ID’d as Guy Edward Bartkus, a ‘pro-mortalist’ who opposed people being born ‘without their consent’
New York Post ^ | May 18, 2025 | Joe Marino and Zoe Hussain

Posted on 05/18/2025 11:28:42 AM PDT by Morgana

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To: Morgana

It’s an interesting philosophical point. No one can possibly give consent to being conceived. So in their view no one can legitimately by conceived.

I have a biblical worldview; consent and autonomy are not idols of mine so it does not affect me. However if consent is lord then we cease to exist as a people.


41 posted on 05/18/2025 1:50:11 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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Ironically I believe he died.


42 posted on 05/18/2025 1:51:03 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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with his inclinations and logic, if he hadn’t blown up clinic and instead had written a book or submitted a letter to the editor of some major newspaper - he may have had notroublee at all becoming hired as a University professor.


43 posted on 05/18/2025 2:54:39 PM PDT by epluribus_2 (!)
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You do ask to be born and even to choose your parents, according to Mormons. At least that is how I understand their worldview.

There is an entertaining LDS play titled, "Saturday's Warrior". I saw a live version, but it is available on video (or was a few years ago). I joined the LDS church on May 18, 1986, so today is an anniversary. The worldview you cite is more implied than explicit in the scriptures. The play is still entertaining.

Youtube to the rescue with Saturday's Warrior

44 posted on 05/18/2025 2:56:31 PM PDT by Myrddin
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