Posted on 05/17/2025 9:04:39 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
The below is attributable to Spokesperson Tammy Bruce:
Secretary of State Marco Rubio spoke with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov today. Secretary Rubio welcomed the prisoner exchange agreement reached during the May 16 Ukraine-Russia talks in Istanbul and delivered President Trump’s strong message: the United States is committed to achieving a lasting end to the Russia-Ukraine war. The comprehensive peace plan proposed by the United States outlines the best way forward. The Secretary emphasized President Trump’s call for an immediate ceasefire and an end to the violence.
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President Trump wants the immediate ceasefire which some Russia lovers here mock as a ridiculous Ukraine demand.
If you don’t support President Trump you are no MAGA, patriot or conservative.
Two alternatives:
1) Arm Ukraine to the teeth.
2) Threaten to abandon NATO unless the Europeans arm the Ukraine to the teeth.
No 3 alternatives. Leave Ukraine for the Euros. They want the war. Let them have the war without us in it or paying for any of it. Our contribution could be some blankets and pillows.
Ok 3 alternatives ( or even more ).
Do the outcomes of each leave the US in a place we want to be?
Would leaving it for the Europeans to make a hash mess of it only still require the US to take care of it, and from an even worse position?
Looking at what’s likely to happen, since the ones actually deciding aren’t asking me.
It is not our mess. We are not defending the United States and Ukraine is not a NATO country.
This is a globalist war being ignited since 2014 by bad players like Obama, Biden, and many other neocons like Vitoria Nuland.
Our troops don’t need to die for this and we are already going broke.
All true and good points but you miss that those are all going to be ignored and we are going to go in and intervene anyway. I’m just speculating on how our intervening will unfold. You Do realize that every point you are making is going to be ignored, don’t you?
It’s already been decided that if Russia does not stop this with Ukraone that the US is going to actively intervene to force a stop. The only question now is what that US intervention will look like. Will it happen before or after Trump is no longer President? Don’t know.
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