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Powder Keg: Europe 1900 to 1914 | Historical Documentary | Lucasfilm
YouTube ^ | 2007 | Lucas Film

Posted on 05/16/2025 7:34:02 AM PDT by SmokingJoe

The usual story of Europe's endless wars, this time at the start of WWI at begining of the 20th century.
Only thing is America paid for a big chunk of European war costs in Europe since WW I, later WW II, then recently Yugoslavia war etc. 8 million died in Europe in WWI and achieved exactly nothing at the end.
Today, the Europeans are back cap in hand, demanding huge amounts of US tax payer dollars for their stupid war in Ukraine again.
Answer must be NO.
Enough of this stupidity already.

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Only 26 minutes. Worth watching.
1 posted on 05/16/2025 7:34:02 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Has there ever been a time when Europe was not at war with itself?


2 posted on 05/16/2025 7:37:08 AM PDT by ComputerGuy
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3 posted on 05/16/2025 7:38:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ComputerGuy

I doubt it.


4 posted on 05/16/2025 7:42:29 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: ComputerGuy
Historically mostly after WW II, only because America had hundreds of thousands of troops in Europe (at US tax payers expense) to guarantee peace in Europe.
Even then there have still been wars in Europe at WW II, like in Yugoslavia for example.
5 posted on 05/16/2025 7:44:16 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: dfwgator
Yup.
And defence companies, politicians and retired generals know that.
6 posted on 05/16/2025 7:46:26 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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There, was a great man.

And they shunned him for telling the truth.

He stuck up for the WW1 vets while nobody else would.


7 posted on 05/16/2025 7:55:22 AM PDT by crz
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To: SmokingJoe

What’s interesting is the people supposedly in charge, according to this film, were not the people in charge.

Kind of reminds one of Mark Milley going behind Trump’s back to communicated with the Chinese.

And who knows who was in charge while Biden was up there?


8 posted on 05/16/2025 8:05:02 AM PDT by packagingguy
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Yup.


9 posted on 05/16/2025 8:18:16 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: ComputerGuy
Has there ever been a time when Europe was not at war with itself?

You mean unlike every other pat of the world? /s

No European country is lucky enough to be bordered by two enormous oceans and two neighbors with much smaller populations.

10 posted on 05/16/2025 8:26:04 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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We have kept the peace in Europe at the cost of trillions of dollars letting Europe give out luxurious benefits all the while making fun of us because we don’t do the same.

Their defense is paid for by us and they refuse to even do the minimum dictated by NATO. If they were smart, they would BEG us to stay to keep their natural warmaking at bay. Instead they criticize and demean us, then blame us for everything wrong they are responsible for.

The whole of Europe has more people than the USA. Let them fix European problems.

George Washington advised against permanent foreign entanglements, urging the United States to avoid permanent alliances with foreign nations and to maintain neutrality as much as possible. He believed that such alliances could lead to unnecessary wars and cloud the nation’s judgment. Instead, he encouraged good faith and justice towards all nations and the cultivation of peace and harmony.


11 posted on 05/16/2025 8:30:46 AM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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We helped instigate the wars in former Yugoslavia, so ...


12 posted on 05/16/2025 8:40:33 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: packrat35
Pretty much.
Over the last 100 years, America has spent Trillions of dollars of tax payer money on stupid foreign wars, mostly in Europe, that had nothing to do with America and were of no benefit to America at all,
Someone explain to me what America was doing in Vietnam where America squandered hundreds of billions of dollars, plus 59,000 US lives, after the Vietcong kicked the French out.
Thank God Trump is President.
He's the only politician who's pointed out how America was getting screwed by so called “allies” in Europe.
13 posted on 05/16/2025 8:44:54 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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We had no business doing that.
We have mountains of serious problems in America and currently have a $36 Trillion debt, so why go squander US tax payer dollars on stupid foreign wars?
14 posted on 05/16/2025 8:48:01 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Yeah, but Clinton wanted to “prove” our favorite power tool, NATO, still had a raison d’être and we were “the indispensable nation”.

I agree about spending our tax dollars on stupid foreign wars. Imagine if we’d invested all those trillions wasted on stupid wars in our own infrastructure and R&D instead. Just imagine.


15 posted on 05/16/2025 9:12:28 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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” Imagine if we'd invested all those trillions wasted on stupid wars in our own infrastructure and R&D instead”

Yup.
America would be much much richer today, with most poverty wiped out.

16 posted on 05/16/2025 9:16:36 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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There are two excellent books on World War I, “The Myth of the Great War” and “Wilson’s War”.

World War I is what caused the 20th century to unravel and gave us the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, World War II of course and the Cold War.

“They Myth of the Great War” points that there were no allied victories until the USA mistakenly intervened. Paris was about to fall again to Germany as it did during the 1870 Franco Prussian war until the USA intervened. The allied generals approach to warfare was to let their troops be slaughtered en masse. One reads about it and one cannot quite believe it. The allies also expected the USA troops to be integrated with the British and French troops under the command of their generals which Pershing smartly refused.

The Euros had an unearned ‘victory’ and in the great European tradition resorted to the usual treachery in the form of the Treaty of Versailles. Wilson’s intervention didn’t earn him or the USA any love since they ignored his “14 Points”; he ceased being useful. Commentators at the time said the treaty guaranteed the next war and they were right.

As awful as the jug-eared affirmative action buffoon and the senile corrupt and traitorous child molester were as presidents, Wilson is probably the worst president in American history; he gave us the Federal Reserve, the Income Tax and of course the WW I intervention when he ran on the platform in 1916 that ‘he kept us out of war’. Wilson’s incompetence as a leader of any sort is summarized well in “Wilson’s War.”

Our first progressive president, Teddy Roosevelt, foist Wilson on the country. The Republican Party told Roosevelt he was guaranteed the nomination after Taft’s second term but his ego wouldn’t permit him to wait. His third-party run in 1912 inflicted Wilson on the country just like Ross Perot’s third party run inflicted the Clinton Crime Syndicate on the country. So perhaps one can blame Teddy Roosevelt for the major disasters of the 20th century starting with World War I.


17 posted on 05/16/2025 9:53:07 AM PDT by KamperKen (u)
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“Has there ever been a time when Europe was not at war with itself?”

No, until the creation of NATO, which was largely created to prevent the Euros from slaughtering one another. The Cold War alliance was secondary. NATO is about to go away so they can revert to their historical norm.


18 posted on 05/16/2025 10:02:40 AM PDT by KamperKen (u)
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We’re still paying for the collapse of the Roman Empire.


19 posted on 05/16/2025 10:04:16 AM PDT by Publius
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To: KamperKen
“His third-party run in 1912 inflicted Wilson on the country just like Ross Perot's third party run inflicted the Clinton Crime Syndicate on the country. So perhaps one can blame Teddy Roosevelt for the major disasters of the 20th century starting with World War I.”

Great admiration for Theodore.
Very few presidents if any have been as good as he was, especially after the terrible tragedy in his life when both his mother and his wife died on that same day.
Resigned as Navy Secretary to go fight against Spain in Cuba which everyone thought as political suicide. It wasn't. It made Roosevelt very popular after his heroics there.
Running in 1912 was probably a mistake though.

20 posted on 05/16/2025 10:08:20 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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