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Trump says he doesn’t want Apple building products in India: ‘I had a little problem with Tim Cook’
CNBC ^ | May 15, 2025 | Arjun Kharpal

Posted on 05/15/2025 5:52:51 AM PDT by Miami Rebel

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I'm short AAPL....and the trade's been going against me.
1 posted on 05/15/2025 5:52:51 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: Miami Rebel

As high tech as they are, looks like Apple (and others) could build completely automated factories to build their products in the USA so ‘labor’ costs would be minimal...........


2 posted on 05/15/2025 5:56:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Miami Rebel

As it is, the top line iPhones cost over $1k. I’m really not interested in paying $2k or $3k for one. I doubt many people are. As good as Trump’s powers of persuasion may be, I doubt we will be seeing iPhones built primarily in the US.


3 posted on 05/15/2025 6:01:15 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Red Badger

While true....we kill ourselves with regulatory requirements non-existent elsewhere.

How many ‘permits’ are required in developing the facilities here vs. there? How long does this increase the time to build? What is the time-to-market cost? etc.

It’s a challenge, I respect the need for them - like not having buildings that fall down, or electrical fires that can be avoided. But we seem to also worry about the ‘rare lizard’ that has seen a population decline because ‘human bad’.

It’s that madness that still hurts us.


4 posted on 05/15/2025 6:02:23 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Miami Rebel

it’s certainly a rational bet on your end....not much innovation on the company’s part since Jobs’ passing. Yet it’s trading at a 30x+ forward P/E with single-digit earnings growth.


5 posted on 05/15/2025 6:10:31 AM PDT by millenial4freedom (Government was supposed to preserve freedom, not serve as a jobs program for delinquents and misfits)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I think Apple products are way overpriced anyway and you can’t even fix a lot of it yourself ,LOL


6 posted on 05/15/2025 6:12:12 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Miami Rebel

It is not the role of the President of the United States to tell individual companies where to produce their products. Dictators tell companies how to operate their businesses, not elected presidents.

The role of the president is to devise, sell to Congress, and implement regulatory, legal, and tax policies that create economic conditions favorable to companies locating manufacturing facilities in the United States. Where individual companies, such as Apple, decide to locate is for the company management and board of directors to decide.

The founding fathers would be shocked to hear a president telling the CEO of one of the largest and most successful American companies how to do his job. They would consider such direction an act of tyranny.


7 posted on 05/15/2025 6:23:00 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: Red Badger
As high tech as they are, looks like Apple (and others) could build completely automated factories to build their products in the USA so ‘labor’ costs would be minimal...........

I disagree. Yes, Apple is high tech. But they have a knack for optimizing the end consumer experience. They don't seem to do well on back-end processing and automation. For example, their attempt at a server OS was short lived. And their developer tools aren't conducive to doing a lot of database stuff. I'm not saying it's impossible to use Apple developer tools for backend database and automation. I'm saying that I, an iphone user, wouldn't pick Apple for backend or automation.

8 posted on 05/15/2025 6:24:05 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

That just means the people they have right now aren’t proficient in that area. They can hire the right people for those jobs............


9 posted on 05/15/2025 6:39:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

$1k, $2k, heck make them $5k or $10k or shoot the moon with $50k and people will still throw their money away on them. It’ll be a cold day before I forgive them not cooperating with the police on something.

With India’s filthy polluted waterways, we need to get our meds back home.


10 posted on 05/15/2025 6:40:10 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Soul of the South

I get the opposite impression when I read founding father documents. I would suggest they could not imagine entanglements on the level of US industry today.


11 posted on 05/15/2025 6:43:47 AM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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To: Soul of the South

There is a difference between encouraging and telling.


12 posted on 05/15/2025 6:47:04 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Miami Rebel

Apple...

What you sell in the US...

Build in the US...

Like Henry Ford knew when he raised the wages of his workers

You need Americans to buy your products ...so

Americans need to have jobs that make them the money to buy your products


13 posted on 05/15/2025 6:54:15 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat90000)
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To: Tell It Right

You may be right, but mainly that it doesn’t scale. For the smaller company I was working at, Apple’s Mac Server/Server OS was GREAT! It doesn’t help when you change processors every few years.

For databases, I have never thrown anything at FileMaker Pro in terms of size that it couldn’t handle. It doesn’t really handle SQL natively (and I am not a SQL programmer), and it is VERY tricky to coax a double dimensioned sort for ranking purposes) out of it. But it runs rings around Access for front end and report generation.


14 posted on 05/15/2025 6:58:37 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Soul of the South

Here’s the quote that I found off-putting:

“I had a little problem with Tim Cook yesterday,” Trump said. “I said to him, ‘my friend, I treated you very good.’”

President Trump tends to be fixated on personal relationships, sometimes to the point of emphasizing them over policies. How many times has he hailed Xi as a great friend?

The very idea that a company or CEO is “treated good” is pretty wacky. Why should the US government treat ANYONE good or bad except if the policy matches the national interest? And if the policy aligns with the national interest, it is not a matter of good or bad or favoritism.


15 posted on 05/15/2025 7:02:17 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: Miami Rebel
The very idea that a company or CEO is “treated good” is pretty wacky.

Politics is wacky.

16 posted on 05/15/2025 7:06:39 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Dr. Sivana
For databases, I have never thrown anything at FileMaker Pro in terms of size that it couldn’t handle. It doesn’t really handle SQL natively (and I am not a SQL programmer), and it is VERY tricky to coax a double dimensioned sort for ranking purposes) out of it. But it runs rings around Access for front end and report generation.

I guess MySQL is alright for a lightweight DB. I thought about using it for my personal things (like storing market data with my C# program and later querying it to generate reports ad hoc when I lead a financial small group and people ask questions about retiring right before a market crash like 2000 or 2008). But since I already need for my quasi-retirement-but-not-really either Windows for a SQL Server backend, or Linux for an Oracle backend, I go with Windows for my laptop so at least I can run free SQL Server Express (free as long as db size doesn't exceed 10 GB) on my personal laptop to play with TSQL for my personal data stuff (including exporting my solar inverter telemetry into the TSQL db and studying how my inverter settings impact throughput). Especially given MS Visual Studio's development IDE (runs better on Windows). For whatever reason, I haven't seen a comparable IDE for Java or anything else like Studio.

17 posted on 05/15/2025 7:13:05 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

For whatever reason, I haven’t seen a comparable IDE for Java or anything else like Studio.


Have you looked at IntelliJ?


18 posted on 05/15/2025 7:14:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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No I haven’t looked at IntelliJ. Is it better than JDeveloper and NetBeans and Eclipse?


19 posted on 05/15/2025 7:20:19 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

I would say so.


20 posted on 05/15/2025 7:21:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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