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One of Alcatraz's last living inmates on Trump's plan to reopen prison
BBC News ^ | May 11, 2025 | By Madeline Halpert, Lily Jamali

Posted on 05/11/2025 5:55:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

When Charlie Hopkins thinks back to the three years he spent in one of America's most famous prisons, he remembers the "deathly quiet" the most.

In 1955, Hopkins was sent to Alcatraz - a famed prison on an isolated island off the coast of San Francisco - after causing trouble at other prisons to serve a 17-year sentence for kidnapping and robbery.

Falling asleep at night in his cell on the remote island, he said, the only sound was the whistle of ships passing.

Now 93 and living in Florida, Hopkins said the San Francisco National Archives informed him that he is likely the last surviving former Alcatraz inmate.

Although it closed decades ago, US President Donald Trump recently claimed that he wants to re-open it as a federal prison.

Alcatraz "represents something very strong, very powerful" - law and order, Trump said.

But experts and historians said Trump's proposal to re-establish the prison is far-fetched, as it would cost billions to repair and bring up to date with other federal facilities.

Hopkins agrees. "It would be so expensive," he said.

"Back then, the sewage system went into the ocean," he added. "They'd have to come up with another way of handling that."

But the avid Trump supporter said he does not believe the president's proposal is serious.

"He don't really want to open that place," Hopkins said, adding that Trump was trying to "get a point across to the public" about punishing criminals and those who enter the US illegally.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


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To: ansel12

WTH you babbling about?
“Expensive demolition”?
How so?
Biden spent hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars putting illegals in posh hotels and paying illegals lots of tax payer dollars, yet you whine about the cost of rebuilding a redesigned old prison?


21 posted on 05/11/2025 6:44:12 AM PDT by SmokingJoe (What a )
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To: stanne

Read your post I responded to. I was surprised you dissed our president. Never saw you do that before.


22 posted on 05/11/2025 6:44:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

It’s the perfect facility for the traitors in our government.


23 posted on 05/11/2025 6:46:10 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m 50/50 on whether Trump is serious or just laser pointing the media to make a point about law and order.


24 posted on 05/11/2025 6:46:29 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Thank You Rush

“””””The guy who was formerly a prisoner on Alcatraz has a good grasp on what renovation would mean - $$$$$$$$$$$$”””””

Besides, he was just giving an opinion as a guy who lived there and knew the place 65 years ago, not as an engineer, or expert, or as a political statement.


25 posted on 05/11/2025 6:46:32 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Imagine the Environmental Impact Statement logjam that will be created.


26 posted on 05/11/2025 6:46:43 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Thank You Rush
What does a 93 year old former vicious criminal know about architecture, engineering or the cost of building or running a prison?
Nothing.
27 posted on 05/11/2025 6:48:57 AM PDT by SmokingJoe (What a )
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

“Environmental Impact Statement” huh?
Now you’ve been reduced to babbling utter nonsense.


28 posted on 05/11/2025 6:51:50 AM PDT by SmokingJoe (What a )
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To: napscoordinator

“ Read your post I responded to. I was surprised you dissed our president. Never saw you do that before.”

I never have

I was referring to the subject

The ex con


29 posted on 05/11/2025 6:52:49 AM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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To: SmokingJoe

LOL, you sure woke up in a nasty mood this morning, as far as demolition, my dad had a demolition business sometimes and I remember what he ran into when he demolished the 120 year old cotton warehouses and docks in Galveston, Texas, the thick old concrete was a bear.

We can build a secure prison anywhere, new and fresh, located where a quality labor force and a friendlier state government and state laws and regulations exist.


30 posted on 05/11/2025 6:53:11 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The concrete to make the prison used seawater. It's decomposing and the steel reinforcement with it. The whole thing would have to be removed and rebuilt.

As to being a "remote island" it's inside San Francisco, only a mile from the Marina.

31 posted on 05/11/2025 6:53:20 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: SmokingJoe
“Expensive demolition”?
How so?

To keep the dust and debris out of the Bay and load it out for safe disposal. It ain't cheap, and it will all have to be removed down to parent rock, as the original concrete was made from seawater.

32 posted on 05/11/2025 6:57:09 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: ansel12
This government has Donald Trump as President.
Same Trump who has done huge construction projects in New York City and round the world all his life.
I bet he knows more about building, demolition etc than you or this 93 year old kidnapper with zero construction experience.
33 posted on 05/11/2025 6:59:09 AM PDT by SmokingJoe (What a )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If President Trump wants an inhospitable maximum-security low-privilege prison for the worst of the worst, he should build a Klingon Rura Penthe deep in the heart of Alaska and send all the equatorial gang-bangers there.

-PJ

34 posted on 05/11/2025 6:59:33 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: drwoof

They wanted to offer him his old room back.


35 posted on 05/11/2025 7:01:02 AM PDT by Surrounded_too (LE)
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To: ansel12

“docks” being the loading docks at the warehouses.


36 posted on 05/11/2025 7:01:12 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t think DJT is really going to reopen Alcatraz, they shut it down because it was too expensive to operate in the first place. To get anything there and back costs money, let alone refurbishing the Rock. We could just use Gitmo or build a new one.


37 posted on 05/11/2025 7:01:20 AM PDT by Rappini ("In hoc Signo Vinces" In this sign, you shall conquer.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Alcatraz was closed b/c it was prohibitively expensive to operate. We were told on a tour that everything had to be hauled over by boat, including water.

More money is being made as a tourist attraction - we tried to get tickets last summer when we were there and all of the tours were sold out. And, they’re not cheap.

Better are remote places like Pelican Bay in a very desolate part of California along the coast. There is nothing there - it was built there to prevent the inmates families from settling in the area.


38 posted on 05/11/2025 7:02:09 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: Carry_Okie

Look Trump has done plenty of big demolitions and construction in very high population density Manhattan for decades.
He knows something about that.
How many huge construction projects have you ever done?


39 posted on 05/11/2025 7:03:01 AM PDT by SmokingJoe (What a )
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To: SmokingJoe

He wasn’t talking about rebuilding it or running it. He was using common sense which isn’t very common here today!


40 posted on 05/11/2025 7:03:25 AM PDT by Thank You Rush ( )
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