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Posted on 05/08/2025 12:45:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
One of the most prominent religions in ancient and medieval China was Taoism, or Daoism. This is completely unrelated to Christianity, an Abrahamic religion related to Judaism and Islam. For this reason, it might be surprising to learn that some medieval Daoist texts include brief Christian prayers that were used as spells.
The writings of Lu Dongbin
Lu Dongbin was born in China in the eighth century CE. He was a prominent scholar and poet, alleged to have performed miracles. His poems are collected in The Complete Works of Lu Yan or The Complete Book of Ancestor Lu.
The overwhelming majority of poems and spells in this collection of literature are purely Taoist. This makes sense, since Lu Dongbin himself followed the Taoist religion. In fact, after his death, he was deified and viewed as one of the Eight Immortals within that belief system.
However, something that makes Lu Dongbin’s works so fascinating is that there are some obscure Christian prayers contained within them.
The Christian prayers in Lu’s Chinese spells Beyond simply being interesting because Lu was not a follower of Christianity, something else makes these obscure messages so peculiar. They are not even written in Lu’s native Chinese language.
Grecian Delight supports Greece While being written with Chinese characters, they are transliterations of sentences in Syriac, not Chinese. There are four of them. Concerning these four messages, Lu wrote that knowing these spells would enable one to elevate seven ancestors to the immortal realm.
The first one reads:
“Yes, the Christ did go up to high things!”
The second one reads:
“Yes, the divine Majesty protect this Jesus!”
The third one reads:
“Yes, let us exalt the image of the Christ!”
The fourth one reads:
“Yes, the present of the image of the King is the Jesus!”
However, an alternative translation for this final spell is:
“As it was written in prophecy, Jesus is King!”
As we can see, these Chinese spells, which could supposedly elevate seven ancestors to the immortal realm, are brief Christian prayers about Jesus.
Why are there Christian prayers in the Taoist writings of Lu Dongbin? It is well worth asking why the Chinese Taoist Lu Dongbin included some Christian prayers in his writings. Interestingly, Lu’s residence was likely just a short walk from a monastery of Christian monks. This was the Church of the East, also known as the Nestorian Church.
Given this geographical connection, it would have been easy for Lu Dongbin to have become familiar with the teachings of Christianity. Furthermore, there is evidence that he worked directly with these nearby monks.
One of the main objectives of the Nestorian monks was to share their beliefs with the Chinese, so they wanted to translate the Christian message into the native languages. Evidence indicates that Lu Dongbin helped them with some of their translation work.
This provides a straightforward explanation of how Lu Dongbin became acquainted with certain fundamental aspects of Christianity, enabling him to incorporate some Christian prayers as spells in his Daoist writings.
Lu Dongbin’s association with Christianity may also explain some other mysteries. As mentioned earlier, some records attribute miracles to Lu. These miracles include turning water into wine and healing the blind.
It may not be a coincidence that these are some of the most famous of Jesus’ miracles in the Christian gospels.
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Watch out how these false religions depict Jesus, likely to say he may be here now - all biblically prophetic warnings.
They will say he is here or there ... just as it was foretold.
Someone was on Coast to Coast years ago saying that there’s supposedly a record of Christ spending time at the monasteries.
Basically, that Christ traveled there with his maternal uncle who was a merchant doing trade routes and that Christ was God’s answer to Buddha and his followers’ prayers, appearing 500 years after or something like that.
Christianity reached China as early as the 7th century via the Silk Road, with the Nestorian Church (a branch of Eastern Christianity) establishing a presence during the Tang Dynasty. The Xi’an Stele (erected 781 CE) documents Nestorian missionary activity, showing that Christian prayers and teachings were known in China. Nestorian Christians translated prayers like the Pater Noster (“Our Father”) and Ave Maria (“Hail Mary”) into Chinese, often adapting them for local contexts.
Taoist texts, particularly those involving rituals and magic (e.g., fulu talismans), were eclectic, incorporating elements from other traditions. Fulu are asemic Taoist symbols used for exorcism, healing, and invoking deities, often blending Buddhist, shamanic, and local practices. During the Tang and Song Dynasties, when Taoism was an official religion, priests interacted with Nestorian Christians along the Silk Road, where cultural exchanges were common. Texts like Gnosis on the Silk Road highlight the blending of Buddhist, Manichean, Taoist, and Christian elements in Central Asia, including prayers and spells.
That fool lost me right there.
“ One of the most prominent religions in ancient and medieval China was Taoism”
Was?
Is.
It’s crazy superstition polytheist paganism.
Christian prayers have long been part of magic spells. “Hocus-pocus” is a corruption of “Hoc est corpus meum,” or “This is My body.”
“Basically, that Christ traveled there with his maternal uncle who was a merchant doing trade routes and that Christ was God’s answer to Buddha and his followers’ prayers, appearing 500 years after or something like that.”
Yes during the “Lost years” of his life where there was no western accounts... China, Tibet, India, and Japan. Jesus was real. But his life was not what western brainwashing clergy have claimed.
There is evidence that the original Chinese knew about Noah and the flood.
Bttt
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