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I retired 22 years ago with no savings plan, but now have $1.3 million. Stressing about retirement isn't worth it.
Business insider ^ | May the 5th, 2025 | Noah Shieldlower

Posted on 05/08/2025 6:07:19 AM PDT by Cronos

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To: Cronos

PFL


41 posted on 05/08/2025 7:24:43 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: Tell It Right

Nice thing about a passbook savings account is that it is about as liquid as you can get.

I retired four years ago and my wife and I are living off social security. But before I retired we became completely debt free. We own our home, four cars, and a fully stocked shop building. We also have 25 acres of forest that is harvestable every ten years or so, for many thousands of dollars.

Our monthly cost of living is half our SS checks. But the big key to this whole thing is that we simply need very little money to live. Part of it is the ridiculously low property taxes: 32 acres and a home, for the price of a large pizza every month.

And the other part is that we just don’t want much of anything. My one extravagance is that I pay for Youtube premium because I use it constantly, and it is also how I learn songs for my bands, which are really a hobby experience. It only earns me a few hundred a month.

But I feel richer than I have at any time in my life and I also enjoy more dayly joy than I have at any time in my life. I’m 71, and had an 11+ hour heart surgery two years ago that knocked 15-20 years off my age.

I know it won’t last forever, but I certainly never anticipated this retirement when I was a young man.


42 posted on 05/08/2025 7:28:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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To: Tell It Right

Nice thing about a passbook savings account is that it is about as liquid as you can get.

I retired four years ago and my wife and I are living off social security. But before I retired we became completely debt free. We own our home, four cars, and a fully stocked shop building. We also have 25 acres of forest that is harvestable every ten years or so, for many thousands of dollars.

BTW, I dreaded tax season every year back in the day. Now it takes me about a half hour to do my taxes. I pay no income tax any more. If push came to shove, I could even work a part time job and make almost $30k and still pay no income tax. But so far there is no need.

Our monthly cost of living is half our SS checks. But the big key to this whole thing is that we simply need very little money to live. Part of it is the ridiculously low property taxes: 32 acres and a home, for the price of a large pizza every month.

And the other part is that we just don’t want much of anything. My one extravagance is that I pay for Youtube premium because I use it constantly, and it is also how I learn songs for my bands, which are really a hobby experience. It only earns me a few hundred a month.

But I feel richer than I have at any time in my life and I also enjoy more dayly joy than I have at any time in my life. I’m 71, and had an 11+ hour heart surgery two years ago that knocked 15-20 years off my age.

I know it won’t last forever, but I certainly never anticipated this retirement when I was a young man.


43 posted on 05/08/2025 7:31:20 AM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

So you don’t “have” $1.3 million,


You present a lot of “ifs”. We consider if’s but don’t live our lives around them. There are many more factors in his life than money. Same for you and me.


44 posted on 05/08/2025 7:36:50 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: Cronos

45 posted on 05/08/2025 7:44:29 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Tell It Right

https://www.businessinsider.com/retirement-advice-millionaire-no-plan-stocks-investing-staying-active-aging-2025-5?IR=T


46 posted on 05/08/2025 7:56:33 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: NautiNurse

https://www.businessinsider.com/retirement-advice-millionaire-no-plan-stocks-investing-staying-active-aging-2025-5?IR=T


47 posted on 05/08/2025 7:56:54 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: cgbg

Always pay yourself first, focus on accumulating assets rather than debts, and (to your point) watch your spending on the frivolous stuff. You’ll likely be spending more in retirement than you thought and new income is going to be hard to come by.


48 posted on 05/08/2025 7:57:31 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Eccl 10:2

“Buy quality and hold it.”

Amen.


49 posted on 05/08/2025 8:01:38 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: Cronos

Well, in my case various emergencies (extended unemployment, family medical issues not covered by insurance, etc.) ate up all savings. Then I realized. I do desk jobs. I don’t usually have to extend myself physically. I simply won’t retire. Not ideal, but provides for wife and special needs family members.


50 posted on 05/08/2025 8:02:06 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Eccl 10:2

Some people buy quality companies that are reliable dividend growers (e.g., dividend aristocrats) and use the quarterly payouts to supplement whatever other income sources they have. But it can take a long time to build those income streams so not for everyone.


51 posted on 05/08/2025 8:12:35 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: cuban leaf

Great points! Lowering your expenses by being debt free changes everything for retirement.


52 posted on 05/08/2025 8:17:38 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Well, in my case various emergencies (extended unemployment, family medical issues not covered by insurance, etc.) ate up all savings.

Ditto here, little savings (VERY little).

But good pensions and a business.

So far keeping well ahead of inflation.

Yesterday drove to Lowes in one of our Unimogs and loaded it with rebar, cement blocks, concrete, etc., for the continuing rebuilding of our 4 story barn attached to our Victorian era money pit.

Live frugally, but have fun.

Last weekend volunteered as a ham radio operator at a stage rally at the Team O'Neil driving school.

This weekend, with others, getting ready for the annual ham radio Field Day.

53 posted on 05/08/2025 8:19:48 AM PDT by Mogger ( 7th generation Vermonter, refugee in New Hampshire hoping NH remains sane.)
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I used to service the computer systems for the headquarters of a major ham radio organization headquarters in Wethersfield, Connecticut.

Those guys were frugal. They had a Panasonic laser printer that was old even then. It was a horrible device, because the developer was separate from the toner, no cartridge. So, they saved money on the toner. Unfortunately, the developer had to be replaced periodically (or resurfaced . . . THERE’S a lost art) and the developer cost more than several toner cartridges would have. A lot of people just put up with very faded printouts until it was illegible.

Pouring in toner from a jug was a mess.

These guys maintained it though. I got the feeling they liked doing things the hard way.


54 posted on 05/08/2025 8:27:11 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: cgbg

My wife and i starting cutting back on “unimportant” stuff a few years before I retired. We are fortunate that we have less than $4k left on our mortgage and we paid off all of the credit cards and car payments. It is really nice to pay ALL of your bills and have cash in your pocket.

But you are right…if you are not paying attention, things can swing out of control easily.

We measure every dime (more or less) and allow ourselves some “fun money” every cycle.

What gets measured…gets done.


55 posted on 05/08/2025 8:35:19 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: PeterPrinciple
I'm posting for other readers, too.

I'm saying not to budget for $1.3 million, budget for $750,000. The $600,000 house isn't generating income cash flow.

-PJ

56 posted on 05/08/2025 8:36:39 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: NautiNurse

The best deal around is the military’s Thrift Savings Plan. The ones who took advantage and maxed their contributions did their 20 years and at 40 retired as millionaires with a military pension as well. Then they went out and got hired by govt. for another 20 years -if they so chose.


57 posted on 05/08/2025 8:42:30 AM PDT by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
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To: Cronos
I'm from El Salvador and moved in 1946.

Did you come and stay legally? If not you are an example of why it is not prudent to deport every single illegal. Some, like you are an asset to America. A 'keeper".

58 posted on 05/08/2025 8:43:17 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE fSPEECH! )
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To: Cronos

I had very little luck in the stock market. I had a Roth IRA. I built wealth buying and selling real estate. That and precious metal. Now that the ability of the big banks to manipulate gold is waning we are going to be in great shape.


59 posted on 05/08/2025 8:58:08 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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60 posted on 05/08/2025 1:18:22 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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