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Refinery closures increase uncertainty about California’s fuel future
The Hill ^ | 5/03/25 | Sharon Udasin

Posted on 05/03/2025 3:49:59 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

I think the Federal Government has a legal opportunity to step in here and referee this situation. It is actually a National Interstate Commerce and critical infrastructure situation. Ca is causing direct harm and hardships to two other States besides themselves. It is a matter of Interstate National Energy Security and absolutely within their Federal jurisdiction to intervene.


21 posted on 05/03/2025 6:57:30 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Wallace T.; coloradan

“Neither state produces much oil or natural gas. Even if you had a refinery in NV or AZ, the product would have to come from somewhere else.”

Absolutely... The crude to refine in the first place. And the only two sources are Ca by way of the sea and Texas.


22 posted on 05/03/2025 7:02:21 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Libloather

I took this in the San Francisco area a couple of weeks ago.

23 posted on 05/03/2025 7:32:16 AM PDT by red-dawg
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To: Libloather

There was a finance guy on my local radio station who said with refinery closures and yet another gas tax to hit July 1st we’re looking at gas at $6.60/gallon by the end of the year.

As of right now in SoCal it’s becoming harder to find gas under $5.00/gallon.

All while Gavin Newson gloats from his three-caravan SUV limo.


24 posted on 05/03/2025 8:24:48 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: Openurmind

The absence of much oil and natural gas production in NV and AZ, the distance from the Permian Basin in TX and southeastern NM, and the green energy lunacy in CA necessitate another way to get petroleum products. The answer should be using a harbor on the Gulf of California in Sonora, Mexico, for a deep water port for tankers. Mexico may be a pit of corruption but they are persuadable with the proper financial arrangements.


25 posted on 05/03/2025 8:26:24 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Libloather
Firms are attributing these decisions to the restrictive regulatory environment in California.

There's your money line.

As Gavin Newsom gloats and repeatedly proclaims publicly that the high price of gas in California (almost $5.00/gallon) is due to "gas companies gouging consumers."

Why aren't they gouging in other states like they are in California, Gavin? Look in the mirror. You and your policies are personally driving gas to $6.60/gallon by the end of the year with yet another gas tax hit to hit July 1st and driving oil companies out of the state.

26 posted on 05/03/2025 8:28:42 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: gunnut

There is no uncertainty. CaCaLand will import everything, from the CCP. As to replacing it with leccy, no F@#$in chance. Impossible to upgrade the transmission infrastructure without Trillions of $$.


27 posted on 05/03/2025 8:49:02 AM PDT by bobbo666
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To: Wallace T.

I understand. But it would be more beneficial to lock down California’s whole supply infrastructure in the name of National Interest. They are threatening the security and welfare interests of the whole country because they are in control of all west coast port supply. It is not theirs to screw with and control. Supply does not belong to them just because they border the coast. This is why Interstate Commerce laws were put into law in the first place. So that States like California cannot regulate or hamper physical supply to the rest of the Nation. They have no right to Dam up the river and block the rest of the country from that supply access. Intentional or not...


28 posted on 05/03/2025 8:50:14 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Libloather

“Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) reportedly sent a letter to the CEC, directing the regulators to guarantee reliable fuel supplies.”

because the CEC owns so many of its own oil fields and refineries, right? ... newsom might as well have sent a letter to Nayib Bukele ordering him to send Kilmar Abrego Garcia back to the USA ...


29 posted on 05/03/2025 8:55:14 AM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: Libloather

Contrary to the headline, I don’t think there’s much uncertainty about it at all. Californians will pay even higher prices for gas.


30 posted on 05/03/2025 8:58:38 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: Libloather

The democrats will accept the oil refineries leaving Kalifornia as a victory for themselves. They won’t be happy until Kalifornia is totally void of all human life.
Satanism at its best.


31 posted on 05/03/2025 9:56:08 AM PDT by drypowder
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“Screw California. Let the dems explain to their voters why there are gas shortages. I suggest the oil companies stop doing business at all in California.”

The problem is that CA’s bad energy policies effect gasoline supply and pricing in neighboring states. Arizona, for example, receives nearly all of its gasoline from California, and a small amount from West Texas. This is not by choice, but the result of national petroleum distribution policy and infrastructure.


32 posted on 05/03/2025 10:15:20 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Libloather

The legislature proposes that the state govt. take over all the remaining refineries. That will add another $300-$500 billion of corruption and incompetence to the state debt.


33 posted on 05/03/2025 10:53:02 AM PDT by Thud
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To: Openurmind

California has pretty massive oil deposits it just refuses to develop them anymore. USGS says there is 61 billion barrels of technically recoverable oil still in place. That’s equal to the Permian basin in total oil remaining in place.

https://explorer.aapg.org/story/articleid/65480/one-family-three-giant-oil-fields-in-los-angeles


34 posted on 05/03/2025 5:12:52 PM PDT by GenXPolymath
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“California has pretty massive oil deposits it just refuses to develop them anymore.”

Yep, that is true.


35 posted on 05/03/2025 5:15:23 PM PDT by Openurmind
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