[packrat35]

You just made my point. Russia put missiles 90 miles from us and we reacted. Yet you say that Russia is wrong to do the same thing.

Russia had between 20-25 million WW2 dead. There are naturally paranoid and moving on their border will make them more so.

I am not a Russia fanboi and I am not a Ukraine fanboi, but we need to leave this crap to the Europeans and Russia & Ukraine. We have pissed away enough money already. We got nothing to gain by continuing down this road, except more money lost to our own detriment...

[adorno]

You just made my point. Russia put missiles 90 miles from us and we reacted. Yet you say that Russia is wrong to do the same thing. Russia had between 20-25 million WW2 dead. There are naturally paranoid and moving on their border will make them more so.

Yep, we sure did react, and that's making my point and not yours.

I am not a Russia fanboi and I am not a Ukraine fanboi, but we need to leave this crap to the Europeans and Russia & Ukraine.

The consequences of that war affect most Europeans, especially the Ukrainians, and even Russia. All of what happens in that region of the world affects the U.S. too, so, obviously, we can't pretend that we can just look from a distance and not get affected.

We have pissed away enough money already.

Try not to be so myopic. We have indeed spent a lot of money in Ukraine, but that money is actually many times less than what it would cost to fight a much bigger war which would almost certainly come after Russia ended up winning Ukraine.

We got nothing to gain by continuing down this road, except more money lost to our own detriment.

Abandoning Ukraine would be the biggest foreign policy debacle for the U.S. since WWII. Much bigger than Biden's disastrous pullout from Afghanistan. Loss of trust would abound from around the world, and our enemies everywhere would rejoice. A much more dangerous world would ensue.