[Bernard]

That's showing #36.170 Trillion in Published US Debt, which is probably the same as what the Treasury is reporting; actual cash out the door, which is accruing interest.

The rest of their numbers are estimates of future debt, based on expert calculations for things like pension liabilities, etc. Or, in other words, obligations that have not been spent.

I'm assuming that the US Treasury has the most accurate number.

And, if the Treasury numbers are accurate, it looks like the national debt has flattened out since 1/20/2025. Why is nobody talking about this?

[zeestephen]

Trump actually did release Q-1 (Jan-Feb-Mar) budget debt numbers.

Trump compared Biden Numbers to Trump Numbers.

The difference was substantial - like Biden had to borrow $500 billion and Trump borrowed just $100 billion.

I do not recall the exact comparison or the exact amount, but Trump did release a comparison.