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To: DiogenesLamp
"You are trying to refocus the "originalism" argument on one of your pet peeves"

Originalism as a word is short for the phrase "original intent of the authors"

The authors of the 14th amendment did not discuss gay marriage in the 1865 debates. Nor any of the other Christmas Tree items you and I commonly swap back and forth, they're all basically interchangeable.

I refocus nothing. Learn your words.

They didn't discuss gay marriage.

I have no idea why this statement causes you so much fear, but there it is.

They didn't discuss gay marriage.

59 posted on 04/28/2025 1:56:29 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Originalism as a word is short for the phrase "original intent of the authors"

Exactly. I've read many of the "Federalist Papers", and I've also read many of the "anti-Federalist Papers", and I can very much assure you, the idea of passing constitutional amendments with an occupation army holding back the actual will of the citizens and installing puppet governments to "ratify" amendments completely against the will of the people, was *NOT* part of the original intent of the Framers of the US Constitution.

It is despotism. It is contrary to a government by "consent of the governed."

It is the worst abuse of Constitutional intent in the history of our nation.

The authors of the 14th amendment did not discuss gay marriage in the 1865 debates.

You had a coalition of *LIBERAL* Republicans who wrote this piece of crap, and they used the Army to *FORCE* 11 states to ratify it against their will, and the thing would have never been ratified voluntarily.

And you are upset that *LIBERAL* Judges have take the horribly written amendment and abused it? It was born from abuse of the Constitution. Using it to abuse the constitution further is just baked into the cake.

They didn't discuss gay marriage.

You are leaving me with the impression that you don't grasp the enemy's arguments as to how the 14th does this.

Are you familiar with the "incorporation doctrine"?

That 14th amendment directly imposes upon the states all the rules that previously only affected the US Federal government. Prior to the 14th, states *COULD* impose their own official state religion. Some still had an "official" state religion after the US constitution was ratified, but most had eschewed it, though it is important to remember they still had the *RIGHT* to have an official religion if a state so chose.

Well after the 14th "passed", States were required to adhere to Federal constitutional standards, and could no longer require an official state religion. They had to abide by all official Federal positions on discrimination, which *NOW INCLUDE F@GGOTS AS A PROTECTED CLASS!*

Since Federal Judges now *IMPOSE* Federal rules on the States, and since the Federal government recognizes nothing wrong with *FAGGOTRY*, the courts now impose FEDERAL recognition of *FAGGOT* marriage on all states.

So the "incorporation doctrine" has backdoored faggot marriage into the United States. The incorporation doctrine is entirely the consequence of the 14th amendment.

Now this is a brief explanation as to how they used the 14th, and I expected you to already know this, but judging by your comments, it didn't seem like you did, so I hope this helped you grasp how the 14th was involved in imposing faggot "marriage" on the states.

The problem is the 14th, not wacko liberal judges lying.

The 14th opens the door to ridiculous "interpretations" by Federal Judges, and so what happened was inevitable when the 14th was "ratified."

60 posted on 04/28/2025 8:16:53 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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